The Shame of Twitter

[Terfulike]

Predictably I got blocked from twitter after Miranda Yardley's treatment made me peak peak trans

Babel: I also think Twitter transactivists do it.

This lack of interest that lots of girls have shown in careers in computing - well STEM in general apart from medical - is really coming back to bite us in the arse.

Sorry for being blunt - I don't how else to put it. It's been one of my bug bears for years now. But if women don't take a hand in shaping the future of mankind that this was bound to happen.

Trans culture is profoundly anti-woman. They have no interest in listening to what women say about their own lives as women.

It has to be though, Miranda, doesn't it? Because the closer they get to women, the further away they have to accept they are.

It has to be though, Miranda, doesn't it? Because the closer they get to women, the further away they have to accept they are.

This is so true.

You lot rock. Not you, Christine, the rest of them.

It has to be though, Miranda, doesn't it? Because the closer they get to women, the further away they have to accept they are.

Totally agree. The biggest thing I see is how they dive at every stereotype going. Look at the vast majority of TIM's:- Faces plastered with make-up, heels, painted nails, dresses, stockings, exaggerated movement, etc, etc, etc. They don't try to look like your average everyday woman, they are a caricature based on everything we want to separate from.

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

Yes! You said in a sentence what it took me a paragraph to say.

Absolutely.

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

That pretty much sums it up for me. Good to see you here on MN, Miranda

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

You once said that AGPs confuse feeling sexy with feeling like a woman. The world's biggest penny dropped for me when you said it and I've never forgotten it.

And of course, the actual way to get women to accept you - if not as an actual woman but rather a welcome guest in women's society - is to make it clear you'll accept rejection as and when it comes.

Connected

What's the connection between the last two paragraphs Lang. Good paragraphs but how are they coonnected?

Sorry, yes, they look like non sequiturs!

First para: in reply to Miranda.

Second para: separate thought about male entitlement being self-defeating - you get a lot of rejections and, even when you aren't rejected, your validation is limited because you know it is on the basis of a polite lie. Like your parents used to tell you, "Don't take. Wait to be asked."

If you want to know more about sprout, google him (and he is a he) on Kiwi Farms.

Thanks Langley

What I don't understand is why TRA hate women (baseball bats etc.) But want to be us. It makes no sense.

Why do they not recognise the difference between sex and gender? Life would be so simple then. I've got this more oradical less permanent cognitive dissonance going on in my head. I literally cannot get my head around it.

I wouldn't mind if it was just TiMs: i could just say " Oh they're crazy", but it's all the MPS, and all the BBC, and all employers, and all the schools, and all the shops...

And obviously all the social networks.

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

Miranda, you nailed it. THIS very sentence is exactly what I've been trying to explain to my husband.

My mom is 6 feet tall, has huge hands and feet, a relatively deep voice (beautiful alto), and doesn't wear makeup. She likes her hair short, doesn't color it, and prefers comfortable clothing and shoes, (flannel, cotton, sneakers). She loves fixing things herself, and still chops and hauls wood for her fireplace. She is the original gender nonconformist--she just does what she wants, and really doesn't care what anyone else thinks.

But make no mistake that she is ALL woman. She birthed three babies, nursed them, suffered years of endometriosis before she finally got a physician to agree to a hysterectomy. She has dealt with the challenges of a "woman's profession" (nursing), and is still processing the guilt and shame instilled in her from her own strongly Catholic upbringing.

And despite all this, (just in recent years), she gets asked about her pronouns. As if because she isn't plastered with makeup and pearls, her femininity is in question.

Here’s a letter to Twitter

fairplayforwomen.com/martha/

Here's a thought.

If you have a twitter account, you can report hate speech if and when you see it. Obviously everyone has different criteria for this but certainly for me tonight the one equating MN to a hotbed of terrorism qualifies.

If you don't actually tweet or re-tweet on your account I would imagine it would be pretty hard to get banned yourself though.

So don't tweet, but do report. Because the more reports they get the more chance there is of the hateful TRA posts feeling the force of the twitter ban too.

Obviously you probably have a life so don't spend it scouring twitter looking for stuff to report. But if you spend maybe 10 mins of that day reporting the die in a fire, suck my ladydick kind of stuff, it might help.

I'm pleased Fairplayforwomen have sent that letter - I wrote to Cheryl Sandburg n Jack Dorsey - but a letter from many is better cos TIMs/TRAs are weaponising the reporting system plus social media is based in California where trans are protected minority so nearly impossible to make any complaint against them - look at Ben Shapiro's experience and that was on tv and with witnesses

BBC covering this on their main news website now.

Covers the Twitter ban, Miranda and Man Friday.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-4428843

Sorry,

linky