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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jeremy Vine show today will discuss Labour policy on self id and David Lewis

90 replies

Destinysdaughter · 23/05/2018 11:53

Well this should be interesting. According to Twitter, Linda Bellos will be on it. Anyone want to phone in?

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LizzieSiddal · 23/05/2018 13:44

Jane admits he isn’t a “woman” rather a “trans woman”

spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 13:44

SwearyG True, he's just mischievous.

SwearyG · 23/05/2018 13:45

JF is awful.

spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 13:45

JF trying to talk over LB, JV not allowing it.

AbsintheFriends · 23/05/2018 13:46

JF mentions mumsnet! waves

cistersofterfy · 23/05/2018 13:46

This is an inarticulate debate.

Not impressed with LB.

Why isn't David Lewis on the line?

SwearyG · 23/05/2018 13:46

JF is no substance at all but manages to say a lot of words.

Bi11yOneMate · 23/05/2018 13:47

Oh can someone please summarise what's happening as my toddler is determined that I not hear any of it!

Lottapianos · 23/05/2018 13:47

JF saying that David is being 'celebrated on Mumsnet, of all places' Grin

JV now playing a clip from TV show 'Transparent' Hmm Huh?

spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 13:47

LB talking about big pharma, that is not the issue Linda.

Ereshkigal · 23/05/2018 13:47

That Transparent guy isn't a great role model Smile

JessicaJonesJacket · 23/05/2018 13:48

It's a pity they're not focusing on the Labour short list question ...
JF is so disingenuous. How frustrating to have her as a guest.

LizzieSiddal · 23/05/2018 13:48

Is that for real?

AbsintheFriends · 23/05/2018 13:48

The discussion has moved completely away from AWS. Just goes to show what an unmanageable subject this has become, as it's so rarely discussed in the media. If they were braver about tackling it, and issues were discussed as and when they arose, it would be so much easier for everyone to get their heads around.

SwearyG · 23/05/2018 13:49

How was that transparent clip in any way relevant to talking about AWS?

MiddleagedManic · 23/05/2018 13:49

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spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 13:49

Waste of time! It's over.

Destinysdaughter · 23/05/2018 13:49

Agree this hasn't touched on the real issues at all

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LizzieSiddal · 23/05/2018 13:50

I think Jeremy may be on our side.

Lottapianos · 23/05/2018 13:50

Jane Faye is so frustrating. Jeremy Vine is a complete twerp too. And sad to say that Linda was disappointing. She really didn't sound on top of things today.

There may be some entertaining / maddening calls to come

JessicaJonesJacket · 23/05/2018 13:51

I thought the Transparent clip was a bizarre choice but I guess it highlights that a transwoman can have a penis. Frustrating that JF tried to pretend that's not as relevant in the UK because of surgery options.

AbsintheFriends · 23/05/2018 13:52

I got the impression that JV was on the GC side too. And given that he's currently sitting in a studio with the giant narcissistic pain in the arse that is JF, if he wasn't before he probably will be by 2pm.

Melamin · 23/05/2018 13:52

Is Jane Fae even in the Labour Party?

Destinysdaughter · 23/05/2018 13:53

Oh he's discussing the assault in Hyde park now

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AbsintheFriends · 23/05/2018 13:53

Another 5 mins or so of discussion - phone ins next