Lily Madigan - to celebrate 300 women leaving LP with a party

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The facebook event now seems removed, but Feminist Current does have the screenshot before it disappeared.

Constituency Labour Party Women’s Officer for Rochester and Strood, Lily Madigan, a trans-identified male, plans to host a party to celebrate women leaving the Labour Party in protest of Labour’s policy allowing men to self-identify their way onto all women candidate shortlists.

(Sorry if this one has been posted before, I looked, but could not see a matching thread)

I am posting this to illustrate that TRAs do not want to join 'Class Woman', but to take over 'Class Woman' and throw out the existing inhabitants, then celebrate their victory over women (eg 'enjoy your erasure'). This is why 'we cannot get along' and have zero in common with them.

Yes, 'they" is clearly misgendering a transwoman whose pronoun of choice would be 'she'.

They tends to be used by non-binary types - hence the - er- person in a mask screaming at Posie "She?! You fucking cunt, my pronouns are they!" in Bristol.

We can get around it on MN by just using initials - but for how long?

I can currently say "I think LM is bringing the Labour Party into disrepute by LM's constant tweeting against women and gloating about women leaving the Party" - but that is clearly misgendering too, because I am clearly not using LM's preferred pronoun.

It won't be long - mark my words.

Every inch you give, another 3 are taken.

Tbh, I'm also little confused because I honestly could be sworn we were only recently told it was ok to speak normally in here, because it's a Feminist board.

It's just commonsense, like, TRAs are free to use "cs" on their own boards, (and tell complaining outsiders to rack off) but here "cs" and "t*rf" is unacceptable. And we shouldn't have compelled speech on boards existing so we can discuss our -female- liberation. It's too sadly ironic.

*autocoriander.."could be" = could've.

I like autocoriander

I think autooregano would be better though, when making a ratatouille, for example.

Every inch you give, another 3 are taken.
A tried and tested, reliable strategy, for absolutely sure.

I mean come on, the toilet thing, first it was 'let all legit TW into the women's changing rooms' - now it's 'let everyone in who IDs as a woman in there'.

at autocorriander

Gender fluid=fancy term for transvestite/crossdresser.

Yes, no argument there Poula!

now it's 'let everyone in who IDs as a woman in there'.

With the likes of Pips Bunce, it's actually "let everyone who IDs as a woman certain times, when they feel it" in there.

I'd like an autochillies option.

I'm not in the UK and I'm amazed that a teenager has any say whatsoever in the Labour party. I guess anything's possible now though in Trump's America, so we could get evil twerp teenagers in Congress any day now.

Oooh, party! Do you think there will be cheese and pineapple cubes on cocktail sticks?

Cocktail weenies are probably not on the menu, which is a shame.

It depends how the cocktail weenies identify.
If they identify as lady fingers, they're golden!

Seriously - I got zapped for making a testicle joke sensible comment?

Sheesh. So a willy can be female then? Very odd.

In more news: the world is flat.

Well, ElBisquito we have seen recently amazing teens in the US speaking out against gun laws.

"She?! You fucking cunt, my pronouns are they!"

are?? Are??
I can't respect someone who has such poor grammar ....

So why is mumsnet zapping posts that refer to a make born person with testicles (sometimes identified as a woman hater or child murder) as 'he'?

Are female born people without testicles (and with boobs) who are referred to as 'he' afforded the same 'courtesy'?

Can the zap people who use the offensive term 'cis' as I'm sure it pisses off/upsets/enraged far more people than 'he/she'.

Or is it just the testicles we don't want to offend?

Mumsnet - you do realise you are pandering to stroppy teen behaviour?

As the mum of a teen I can tell you, you are!! 'They' will just turn around and yell 'I hate you - you've ruined my life!!! Why can't you be like NetMums? I never want see you again. I wish I was dead!!!!!' Much slamming of doors and loud music.

LM is not a teen any more.

May identify as one though.

My 13 year old, although a stroppy teen at times, can do a very good impression of a grown up at times and have sensible discussions.

Is that c* or c**?

If every one of us just used the correct pronouns what would happen? It would be too much to delete individual posts so threads would have to go I assume? How would mumsnet choose who to ban?

Trying to be a mature and considered poster and not do a trollish thing like waltz through the thread going ‘you’re a cs and you’re a cs, cs cs c*s!’ to see if it gets deleted. Which wouldn’t be productive or further the discussion in any helpful way.

I just wish there was a definitive moderation policy somewhere around pronouning and describing a person in terms of their sex, where it’s relevant, whether they are happy with said sex or not. Talk Guidelines as far as I can see don’t even mention it, and we’ve had 2 different steers quoted in this thread alone.

Just report it. Every time. Repeatedly. Loudly.

Like the boys do. That works for them.

Andrew Gilligan did that artice recently about Justine being pressured by TAs. Would he defend our rights to use correct pronouns?

I know the press were lobbied by Trans groups like Trans media Watch into new guidelines on using preferred pronouns and calling men women when they want us be. Do you think some mainstream media could be at the point where they could be ready to ditch that?

The funny thing is - most journalists I know, who furiously defend the right to free speech and debate - wouldn't be bullied into picking up shiny new trends and fashions. Will go up against scary people and organisations to show injustice, dirty doings and criminal activity.

But then they are 'proper' journalists and not trendy bandwagon blog babies.

Fekko - it would be so helpful to have a journalist in a big but reputable mainstream paper to make a point of using correct pronouns, inside an article about how women are being forced not to use correct pronouns or correctly identify men and women in places like mumsnet. A kind of come at me bro sort of thing. Stressing how bad the impact is on women in particular and bringing up the glaringly obvious cases of males like Huntley, and the hypocrisy of special protection being given to those driving witchhunts on twitter.

They would have to be willing to stand their ground and have a reputation that it would be difficult to just dismiss them as a right winger or a bigot. It would be riskier for a female journalist than a male one. Several journalists and media people signing an open letter about their and our freedoms to speak truthfully specifically on this subject would be brilliant. Is anyone brave enough to do it? I can think of some who I think would sign, who have already put themselves out there.

I've looked thru the ipso code thing on trans (the list of orgs to get advice from is something!) and I don't see anything to stop correct and honest gendering and naming. Is there another set of guidelines to look at?
www.ipso.co.uk/press-standards/guidance-for-journalists-and-editors/transgender-guidance/