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The erasure of lesbians by the transcult - 'How to have lesbian sex with a transwoman' NSFW

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OrchidInTheSun · 11/05/2018 09:48

This is an article explaining (graphically!) how a lesbian should have sex with a person with a penis. So a man.

www.autostraddle.com/how-to-have-trans-woman-lesbian-sex-with-a-penis-414839/amp/

This is part of a series called Lesbian Sex 101: "Employment of the term “lesbian sex” in this post uses “lesbian” as an adjective to describe sex between two women or people who identify with that experience, regardless of the sexual orientation of the two people involved."

So basically, emphatically not lesbian sex, given that lesbian sex is sex between two biological women who don't have penises.

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Katialoo · 12/05/2018 13:36

Stuff like this makes me feel sad for young/vulnerable lesbians. I imagine most older ones will know their own mind enough to not be influenced by this kind of thing. But I imagine that it's hard for the younger ones. You're already probably getting a general message that it's weird you're attracted to your own sex rather than to the opposite. On top of that you are being told that your own sex includes people you can see to be the opposite sex, and that you should be attracted to some of these people of the opposite sex because they say that they are the same sex as you, and that the very fact you can actually tell they are the opposite sex makes you a bad person so you better keep that to yourself and pretend you think they are exactly the same as you... I can imagine it being a total head fuck.

ohfortuna · 12/05/2018 13:39

Where are the articles for straight men on how to have sex with a transwoman with a penis?
Yes it's such a mystery isn't it!
Maybe it's because straight men are not attracted to 'women' with male bodies
And 'women' with male bodies are not attracted to straight men
'Women' with male bodies find it much more satisfying to try and coerce women with female bodies into having sex with them

Katialoo · 12/05/2018 13:40

I wonder if that sort of pressure makes the idea of transitioning, more appealing to a young lesbian? As a transman it might be easier to get a girlfriend rather than a transgirlfriend. Just a thought anyway.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 13:41

I don't understand Grindr is a dating app which gay men use to connect with other gay men, why would a TIM think that that is a place to get what he wants.

Because it's now being branded as "queer" I think.

GladAllOver · 12/05/2018 13:41

That's not how human sexuality works GladAllOver. If you're a lesbian, you're a lesbian. No amount of liking someone is going to make you find a cock and balls sexually exciting
I think what I said is pretty clear.

If you like sex with a woman, it matters not whether you are male or female, you just get on with enjoying it.
Ditto if you prefer sex with men, you just do it.
You don't need to call yourself straight or gay or lesbian. We are past the stage where you need to be categorised. You are just a human enjoying sex with someone you fancy.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 13:41

Which brings in "straight" men who do want a no strings hook up with a TIM.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 13:43

You don't need to call yourself straight or gay or lesbian. We are past the stage where you need to be categorised

Are we? So gay rights should include straight people with blue hair?

myfriendbob · 12/05/2018 13:46

If you like sex with a woman, it matters not whether you are male or female, you just get on with enjoying it

It matters to the woman you're trying to have sex with, is the point here. IF you're male claiming to be female, it matters a huge amount.

We're NOT past the point of categorisations, that is literally the point.

GladAllOver · 12/05/2018 13:57

It matters to the woman you're trying to have sex with, is the point here. IF you're male claiming to be female, it matters a huge amount.
When I'm thinking whether I want to have sex with a person, I get to know them well enough to know what sort of body they have. I don't need to know what they or others may call it.
Perhaps with more casual encounters, it may be different.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 13:59

Perhaps with more casual encounters, it may be different.

Yes. It's pretty deceptive if you don't tell them and people don't tend to like to be deceived.

myfriendbob · 12/05/2018 14:05

Er hello, OLD, Tinder etc?

But you're still woefully missing the point.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 12/05/2018 16:02

Oh what you said was clear

Just a bit dumb

If you are gay its easier to say you are a lesbian or a gay man and go to a gay bar or a gay friendly b and b

And i dont give a shiny shit if 'as a gay man/woman' someone doesnt want to be labeled

Thats fine...crack on, but some people especially young ones find it easier

TerfsUp · 12/05/2018 18:24

This is the first time I've ever heard that lesbian sex could possibly result in one of the partners getting the other one pregnant.

Glumglowworm · 12/05/2018 18:48

“Soft penises are sexy!”

Sounds like the writer hasn’t actually understood the definition of “lesbian”. As a lesbian woman, I don’t want to have sex with people with penises.

The article is ALL about pleasing the trans partner. Of course it is. It’s another example of women, lesbians in particular, being used solely to pleasure men.

InfiniteCurve · 12/05/2018 19:22

It seems to be that this person is defining lesbian sex as anything that isn't PIV,and where neither of the participants are gay men.Which covers quite a lot really...

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 19:30

On another thread I was reading from 2014 someone linked an earlier Autostraddle article by the author. They have written hundreds of articles about "being a lesbian".

Kyanite · 12/05/2018 19:31

Do transwomen have sex with other transwomen, when they're both lesbians? I just haven't noticed any being in a relationship together.

OlennasWimple · 12/05/2018 20:06

Do transwomen have sex with other transwomen, when they're both lesbians?

No - that would make them gay men be "triggering"

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 20:08

Caitlyn Jenner is the only one I can think of.

Teacuphiccup · 12/05/2018 20:10

and while sex between someone with a penis and someone with a vagina is the norm of what we’re presented in society, not many of those tips deal with the fact that maybe one of those people is a woman.

Erm all people with vaginas are women so all sex that happens between someone with a vagina and someone with a penis happens with women present.

Or do you only get to be the category people if you have a penis?

thebewilderness · 12/05/2018 20:16

Or do you only get to be the category people if you have a penis?

At this point I think some like this author are shouting that only transwomen are women.

Teacuphiccup · 12/05/2018 20:27

Certainly starting to look that way

Juzza12 · 12/05/2018 21:41

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Voice0fReason · 12/05/2018 23:31

one way to start is to cup her whole penis and scrotum in your hand
That sentence is just wrong and has nothing to do with lesbian sex.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 12/05/2018 23:33

Does it usually all fit in one hand

Do some people have really big hands

Ive had quite a sheltered life

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