The erasure of lesbians by the transcult - 'How to have lesbian sex with a transwoman' NSFW

[OrchidInTheSun]

This is an article explaining (graphically!) how a lesbian should have sex with a person with a penis. So a man.

www.autostraddle.com/how-to-have-trans-woman-lesbian-sex-with-a-penis-414839/amp/

This is part of a series called Lesbian Sex 101: "Employment of the term “lesbian sex” in this post uses “lesbian” as an adjective to describe sex between two women or people who identify with that experience, regardless of the sexual orientation of the two people involved."

So basically, emphatically not lesbian sex, given that lesbian sex is sex between two biological women who don't have penises.

Men who aren’t lesbians cos they’re men and their partners can have sex in so many fun ways that do involve their penis and testicles, but don’t necessarily trigger dysphoria.

Have edited it.

quentin

Some people on twitter really have comprehension problems

No one on here has said that at all

I'm jealous of you, Potplant2. I want to be on Twitter too!

Transwomen are not women.
Transwomen are not women.
Transwomen are not women.

Does that qualify?

Nah, gladallover, you need to say something like, reading some bloke’s lecherous fantasies about getting a lesbian to touch his peepee makes me feel sick, to qualify. Sorry.

I bet the men that are so quick to say 'live and let live' will start paying attention when the 'Lesbian' porn they search for features two penises, some five o'clock shadow and precisely zero vaginas.

That’s unlikely to happen as the kind of TIM that calls themselves a ‘lesbian’ won’t want another ‘lesbian’ with a dick. They just want to fuck real women with vaginas.

Said it before and I'll say it again, as many TIM are heterosexual they want to have sex with women, but a bi or heterosexual woman is not validating enough of their chosen gender identity esp for AGP TIM.

Despite how it is currently being spun everyone (including TIM) know that lesbians are same sex attracted not same gender attracted so if a lesbian will sleep with a TIM, well that TIM really and truly must be a woman and he gets the ultimate validation.

waves at Twitter...

I tend to think men trying to tell women what to do are best dealt with by being ignored where ever possible, so I opened the article, ascertained that was what was happening, and closed it again.

It does mean I know don't know how to have lesbian sex with a transwoman, but I think that's a cross I can bear.

I am a lesbian with a vagina and I’ve had sex with other lesbians with vaginas. Can I have my ’I am a real woman’ badge now please? I can pin it on my dungarees.
Or do I not count because of my cis privilege?

I'm falling further and further down that rabbit hole....

I am so glad I am not a young lesbian right now - seriously scary.....

And wow was that article self-obsessed - could NOT believe that there was absolutely zilch about understanding your partner and what they like - all about communicating their needs!

That’s unlikely to happen as the kind of TIM that calls themselves a ‘lesbian’ won’t want another ‘lesbian’ with a dick. They just want to fuck real women with vaginas.

...and unlike women, they're allowed their preferences.

Another giveaway is that strangely, almost no-one is pressuring straight women like me to go down on transmen's vulvas. Or pressuring straight men to go down on transwomen's lady-penises. Just lesbians being targetted by male bodied individuals. Not men. Not women by female-bodied people.

Why don’t all the trans lesbians just hook up with each other? Then they can have all the penis lesbian sex they want.

I am glad that, as a heterosexual woman, I am not pressured to have 'lesbian' sex with a transwoman.

So I'm a straight woman having intercourse with my DH, said DH transitions and I am now a lesbian?

infinite

friend of my dad is a transwomen

When a group of them got together with said transwoman and wife lots of jokes were made about the wife being a lesbian now

Id have smacked them round the back of the head...

Yup InfiniteSheldon, that's why I believe spouses had a veto on legal transitioning, as they would then find themselves in a same sex marriage, which back in the days when the GRA was written wasn't a thing.

Jokes were made by the group i should point out...

I have nothing much more to add other than

Why do these 'lesbians' sound like every other dude with a penis?

When a big part of your 'activism' is penis-centric, then, I dunno, maybe it is just male sexual domination and not really activism??? Our 'cotton panties' really are NOT the 'final frontier' dudes. Go away, leave lesbians alone.

I think that's the conclusion Infinite. In fact there was a heterosexual couple celebrating Lesbian Visibility Day recently and who were most put out that Twitter was pointing out that the bloke identifying as a woman didn't actually make them a lesbian couple

It’s the desire for ultimate control and power. Men have been fetishising lesbians and trying to get access to their bodys’ for ever, but the very nature of lesbianism excludes them and they see this as an affront to thier Power. A trans-woman who gets into a bed with a lesbian can then say
‘look what a proper excepted woman I am,’ they can also say,
‘look men, I’m not even what you would accept as a real man but I have got access to the place where you are denied.’
Obviously not all trans-women, but the few narcissistic insecure morons out there who pedal this cotton ceiling nonsense. It’s affirmation of power and control, that’s why you don’t see any of this nonsense aimed at women who are already willing to have sex with penis owning people.

Bleach bleach, someone pass the bleach! Only got a paragraph down, jerking soured my stomach. I'll look later when I'm feeling stronger.

I haven’t heard anything yet about what kind of sexual activity trans men like. Would any of them like to engage with trans women?

Trans women must have been having sexual activity with people before the subject of trans becoming a political football, does anyone know who with? It seems a bit strange for them suddenly demanding to have sex with lesbians.

How am I getting ads for anusol at the top of the page?

Advertising is obviously transphobic.

Sex in which the female partner gets anything out of it also seems to be transphobic, based on the article.

I believe spouses had a veto on legal transitioning, as they would then find themselves in a same sex marriage

I thought TRAs wanted this removed. So that a person married to someone who transitioned wouldn't get automatic right to annul. And if that's the case, I really don't understand how those two positions are compatible:

1. That a straight woman cannot automatically annul her marriage to someone she married as a man, who transitions.

1. That a lesbian has to have sex with someone with a penis because it's all about identification.

Or is the position just that women have to have relationships and sex with whomever they are told to? Or was the straight women always a lesbian because her husband was always a woman? My head hurts.