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Hello all, man here! am i welcome to talk and learn a bit about stuff ?

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 03/05/2018 16:32

Ive done a little browsing in the feminism section and i admit its intriguing, please forgive my ignorance as i dont know alot about this all.

I just want to start by saying i was raised to respect everyone and i truly do, my view on equality is simply if some one, man or woman is good enough to do the specific job they aspire for then they have every right to get said job/goal, again if this is slight ignorance forgive me, i post this topic because i would like to learn and be less ignorant, love me some knowledge.. :)

So i suppose my question is broad and depends on the individual person's view, but what is the over reaching/ultimate goal of feminism ? or what does it mean to you personally ? and please, dont think im trolling or anything i genuinely want to learn a thing or two, thanks :)

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lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:39

@thebewilderness haha!!

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 03/05/2018 20:41

Yawn

(Hopefully that won't be controversial in this context)

thebewilderness · 03/05/2018 20:43

"Bless"!

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:44

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IfNot · 03/05/2018 20:44

I cba to read the whole thead, and I imagine you have had your arse handed to you sideways by now, so..
Basically Feminists want women and girls to be treated and thought of as people, and not sex robots or domestic slaves or evil harpies. Just people. Like men are. That's it really.
What do you think of that? Any thoughts?

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/05/2018 20:44

At least if the OP is reading this in good faith he's getting an object lesson on why women need feminism.

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:45

And fyi I've fought and climbed through a male dominated industry to be very sucessfuly self employed and funnily enough never once had be rude to be heard or successful . Funnily enough becoming an ally works much better ....

lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:46

@MissReginaPhilange that's so true I'm laughing at her going back on herself hahaha

thebewilderness · 03/05/2018 20:48

@MissReginaPhilange Thank you so much for mansplaining that to me. It is only the 43,000th time it has been said to me in the past 72 years. I am quite sure that it will finally truly deeply penetrate now that you have said it.

WingsOnMyBoots · 03/05/2018 20:48

Smashedmug
"Your intentions were to announce we were in the presence of a penis and to get the little women clamouring to educate you and congratulate you on being SO BWAVE AND SPESHUL with your equal rights for us girls. Your type pop up every so often."

I have to be honest this was exactly my first thought as well. May be wrong but it was.

DietCoke87 · 03/05/2018 20:49

At least if the OP is reading this in good faith he's getting an object lesson on why women need feminism.

^This a hundred times over.

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:51

@thebewilderness just off to scratch my sheballs....work here is done

Bi11yOneMate · 03/05/2018 20:51

I'm going to be charitable and take the OP at face value.

I am a late comers to feminism believing that we already had equal rights in this country - after all I was a STEM graduate, had been in male dominated professions, and happy to go out drinking with the lads and took no shit. Very privileged.

And then my biology tripped me up and showed me that actually, yes we may have equality in this country, but it's not fair.
As the one with maternity leave I became default parent, cleaner, house manager, bloody house elf. And as the one breastfeeding babies who were allergic to formula (cow's milk and soya allergies), it meant I could never leave them with anyone until reliably on solids. And I'm the one with the birth injuries. And I'm the one who has sacrificed my career to enable my DHs career while looking after said house and children (including one with ASD). BECAUSE OF MY BIOLOGY. And because DHs profession looks down on part timers (we wanted to confirm parent).
And 6 years later I'm still default parent and house elf with a "mum job" despite my previous STEM career. Because actually, I couldn't do it all.
Yes I made the choices. Yes I had equal rights, but actually it's not fair.
Because of my biology.. not my gender or anything else.

I want to see equal parental leave with no discrimination against either parents career for taking the full amount. And no discrimination for men or women going part time to co parent. And an expectation that fathers will also take the odd day off for a child's tummy bug, or need to finish early and compress hours to do school run.

And that's just in this country where we have it a lot lot better than many.

But had you asked me at age 25 and clueless I wouldn't have got it.

CourageCallsToCourage · 03/05/2018 20:52

Who turned the bat signal on this time then?

Come on, own up! glares around

lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:56

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MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:57

@bi11yonemate best worded post on the thread...now that's probably the sort of response he was after

lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:59

@Bi11yOneMate didn't read it properly 😳

thebewilderness · 03/05/2018 20:59

The trolls come in pairs now cuz they are so skeered of the Feminists.

ChattyLion · 03/05/2018 21:02

onemate before kids I had no idea either how I would be penalised at work- it was all in the abstract for me back then. I haven’t spoken to any bloke who understands that.

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 21:03

@thebewilderness I'm not a troll ....merely someone who doesn't think how you do. Not illegal. Only thing im.scared of is spiders so unless feminists have 8 legs im pretty sure I'm fine

Bi11yOneMate · 03/05/2018 21:03

Lolli18 you obviously didn't read my post properly. Yes I was the one at home looking after kids and house while he was working. But the only reason it was me at home rather than him was because I'm the female one. The breastfeeding one. No there reason than my biology.
In fact we swapped for a year when he was made redundant and I went back part time (part time as he wanted time to retrain). And he proved totally incapable of looking after kids AND keeping on top of the house. Yet due to patriarchy he was lauded for being so wonderful. And I was still doing night feeds due to being the female breastfeeder.
So that worked Hmm
We had a LOT of discussions about equality, fairness and feminism that year...

Bi11yOneMate · 03/05/2018 21:04

Sorry lolli18 X post :)

Breastfeeding youngest to sleep so being a bit slow typing...

Bi11yOneMate · 03/05/2018 21:05

ChattyLion exactly.

lolli18 · 03/05/2018 21:05

@Bi11yOneMate I agree with you.
I should of read it properly now I look like a dick.
It sounds like you had a hard time !

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 21:10

@bi11yonemate honestly 100% get every word you say. You have to give up everything you've worked for when you have children. I have a 5 year old 5 year old and a very sickly 15 month old who's had numerous issues. Luckily actually dp work are actually amazing and he does get to help and it doesn't fall soley on my shoulders. I can't go back to work just yet as my youngest has numerous health issues meaning he wouldn't be fit in a nursery setting. After months of mourning my career I decided it didn't need to be mourned and set up self employed. To me feminism is in a word getting your she balls on and showing the world you can do it just as good as men and you deserve that recognition too. Is it hard. Hell yes...but do you know what there's a reason why biology means women have the children aswel as jobs and holding down a house ...because we can do it!