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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Hello all, man here! am i welcome to talk and learn a bit about stuff ?

622 replies

PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 03/05/2018 16:32

Ive done a little browsing in the feminism section and i admit its intriguing, please forgive my ignorance as i dont know alot about this all.

I just want to start by saying i was raised to respect everyone and i truly do, my view on equality is simply if some one, man or woman is good enough to do the specific job they aspire for then they have every right to get said job/goal, again if this is slight ignorance forgive me, i post this topic because i would like to learn and be less ignorant, love me some knowledge.. :)

So i suppose my question is broad and depends on the individual person's view, but what is the over reaching/ultimate goal of feminism ? or what does it mean to you personally ? and please, dont think im trolling or anything i genuinely want to learn a thing or two, thanks :)

OP posts:
MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:16

@lolli18 bless you. Actually this interaction on here has cheered me up considerably...nothing can be worse than reading all this Grin

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 20:17

please

Stop apologising

Do you have a specific question you would like to ask now you've looked at some links?

DietCoke87 · 03/05/2018 20:17

Well I hope everyone had fun.

AssassinatedBeauty · 03/05/2018 20:17

And yet again, this poster has not had angry responses. He's had a mild admonishment where people have referred him to useful reading. Interpreting that as angry is a bizarre conclusion.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 20:18

I mean don't ask me

Ive no fucking clue

I just come here for the shits and giggles Grin

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 03/05/2018 20:18

Ok, as you were then OP. Go read. Change your name. Good luck.

May we may cross paths in a debate that can increase knowledge and wisdom.

Really interesting prophecy from Jeanhatchet. I have never recognised that dynamic before, but it's here to observe, right here on this thread.

Again, this is why FWR is the best place on the internet.

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:19

@dietcoke87 about as much fun as pregnancy piles!

lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:20

@MissReginaPhilange agree 🙂.
Is your name something to do with phoebe of friends ? X

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/05/2018 20:21

@MissReginaPhilange and @lolli18

Rather than telling other women how to be nice to men properly... you can choose to post links or DM the OP lots of information. Rather than telling feminists how they should behave. A tactical error I would suggest.

FWIW I get my back up because 'tell me about feminism' often means 'justify feminism' and anyone with half a brain and a computer should be able to see that there is sexism and some women fight it and they are called feminists.

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:21

@lolli18 Yeah was about as far as my creativity could stretch when I was setting up...was either that or crapbag haha

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:23

@mrsterrypratchet I did dm the man in question. I just get a little shocked when people get like that. I'm pretty laid back and generally would take a lot to get me riled up. To me he was just asking and I was more than happy to help. Everyone is passionate about something I get that. But passionate doesn't need to be unwelcoming

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:24

@rufustheyawningreindeer well played....i was amused

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/05/2018 20:25

I'm here a lot at night @MissReginaPhilange and have seen hundreds of these threads go sideways because the OP is a misogynistic arsehole. I can see why people don't want to play that game over and over.

MissReginaPhilange · 03/05/2018 20:26

@mrsterrypratchett I saw no harm as I understood the post. Something is only offensive if that's how you see it. I don't think he wanted anyone to justify I think he just wanted to know and worded it clumsily

IrisAtwood · 03/05/2018 20:27

*It's because whenever men come in to "find out" about feminism they divide women. Women end up divided - and those most hurt are usually the women more conditioned/socialised to be accepting of men and their needs.

Seen it all before.

Please don't judge women who don't want to share feminism with men as "mean". That's the attitude of men. Free yourself and realise the empowerment of and right to hear only female voices sometimes.*

I agree.

PerfectlyDone · 03/05/2018 20:27

Aaaaaaand this fred is why I love MN so much Smile

OP, if you are still reading, 2 bits of advice from me:

  1. Check your privilege - took me decades to recognise mine.
  2. Understand the difference between 'equity' and 'equality' - took me decades too in spite of my pink lady brain

You sound like a well-meaning good egg, so as far as I am concerned, welcome!

lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:28

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lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:29

@MissReginaPhilange haha mines a nickname I used to get called when I was younger somehow my friends thought it was short for Leanne 😶

I love friends btw hah but we better not bring that up on here I'm sure it was in the news about being sexist hahaha

SupermatchGame · 03/05/2018 20:30

So i suppose my question is broad and depends on the individual person's view, but what is the over reaching/ultimate goal of feminism ?

Good question op I ask myself that a lot. I think this is an interesting article if you want to have a read? It asks the same question what is feminism today in discussion with contemporary feminist scholars.

globalnews.ca/news/3292948/redefining-the-f-word-what-does-feminism-look-like-today/

Very different views to some of those you will read on here. Not that that's a bad thing. But there are other, more prevalent views that take a more inclusive approach.

polkadotwellies · 03/05/2018 20:30

This poster has NO interest in feminism.

He's apologetic for victim-making purposes and hasn't showed any intellectual critical thinking.

In a minute he'll apologise again and insist he's not trolling....

I dare you not to op.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 03/05/2018 20:33

"I however have a boyfriend and I'm going to have some fun in life instead of demanding respect because I have a fanny and a pair of tits."

  • That's nice dear
lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:35

@AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth thankyou I do enjoy a good man. Hahahaha.

Noticed you only referenced that part was hat the only bit you could reply too, bless ya

DietCoke87 · 03/05/2018 20:36

If your up your own girly arse so much then I suggest you get your nails done and sit with your green tea and feminism books.
I however have a boyfriend and I'm going to have some fun in life instead of demanding respect because I have a fanny and a pair of tits.
Maybe reread this when your period is over

-5/10

lolli18 · 03/05/2018 20:37

@DietCoke87 thankyou I'm really pleased with that although I didn't ask for a mark, but hey it's a bonus :)

thebewilderness · 03/05/2018 20:38

To me he was just asking and I was more than happy to help.

Not only did you do nothing to help the man. you accused the women of abusing him. Then you started slurping from the delicious chum bucket of outrage and doubled down on your abusive language.

Noe you are telling porky pies when people can simply scroll up to see your comments. WTF do people do this?
If you want to see aggression I suggest you drop by AIBU for a roasting.