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Hello all, man here! am i welcome to talk and learn a bit about stuff ?

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 03/05/2018 16:32

Ive done a little browsing in the feminism section and i admit its intriguing, please forgive my ignorance as i dont know alot about this all.

I just want to start by saying i was raised to respect everyone and i truly do, my view on equality is simply if some one, man or woman is good enough to do the specific job they aspire for then they have every right to get said job/goal, again if this is slight ignorance forgive me, i post this topic because i would like to learn and be less ignorant, love me some knowledge.. :)

So i suppose my question is broad and depends on the individual person's view, but what is the over reaching/ultimate goal of feminism ? or what does it mean to you personally ? and please, dont think im trolling or anything i genuinely want to learn a thing or two, thanks :)

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Auntnelly · 04/05/2018 12:30

I would have given an overview of the societal impacts of feminism and that’s personal affected me eg. My parents being able to divorce when they became unhappy in their marriage, my rapist being dealt with accordingly under UK law, the right to then have an abortion after the rape resulting in pregnancy, being on the same pay as my male colleagues, having a husband who looks after the home with me and joins me in raising our sons to be kind and respectful to all.

MillicentF · 04/05/2018 12:34

What-a bit like the 5th and 7th posters on this thread did, and who were ignored? Loads of posters offered loads of helpful stuff-which was largely ignored.

Auntnelly · 04/05/2018 12:43

I’ve already said some posters were helpful. I’ve already said my posts are not aimed at them. They were aimed at the sarky, unkind and unhelpful posters. You’re taking this far too personally. I’m going to go and join op under the rock Grin
Feminism has given us a voice, let’s use it wisely Flowers

MillicentF · 04/05/2018 12:45

People do get very over excited if a feminist is even a little bit disobliging. It's almost as if they are looking for scraps of evidence to support a constructed vision of feminists as man hating harpies.......

LangCleg · 04/05/2018 12:46

Feminism has given us a voice, let’s use it wisely

Or... feminism has given us a voice, let's allow each woman to use it as she sees fit.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 12:47

The thanks I gave people clearly got lost in the hate directed to the post, I hate hate hate that I’m replying now and I won’t be after this, you say “why should I help him” well why should I now reply if whatever I say will end up turning into what this has turned into ? Ultimately I wanted to see if the bad things I heard were different and lies, 95% of you have proved that they are not.

Once again thanks to those that offered help again I’m sorry for how this went but some of you should re approach your tact, I’m not saying I’d ever be true feminist, as I man maybe I can’t but as a man I can do my part to help show we’re not all violent and nasty.

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leggere · 04/05/2018 12:47

I would have said welcome to the forum and explained the main concern we have at the moment, the trans issue. I held back because I was very interested to see how long it would be before he was got rid of. It was quick compared to the man with the teenage daughters last week, that took quite a bit longer. I'm not new, been around a while with different names. I'm now even more convinced there are one or two TRA's instigating this to give feminists a bad name.

MillicentF · 04/05/2018 12:48

"You’re taking this far too personally"

Oh yes, that's something else women do.......... Grin

Auntnelly · 04/05/2018 12:50

Oh no, taking things personally is something men do too Smile

MillicentF · 04/05/2018 12:52

"95% of you have proved that they are not."

You really think that 95% of the posts on here have been negative? I suggest you go back and have another read.

leggere · 04/05/2018 12:56

Thanks for the update OP, sorry you received hate. They're not feminists in my opinion, they're either TRA's or man haters. Unfortunately, what you've just said will now give them fodder for the rest of the day, they'll dissect it and twist it. But remember this is NOT the true feminist way.

ToeToToe · 04/05/2018 12:59

I've been here years - and I have never, ever seen a man post like the OP in good faith. Not once. Maybe he's the first one ever - but he's gone, so we don't know.

There are men that post here in good faith - they don't announce themselves with OPs like this - they just....join in the discussion threads. There was one man who I didn't even realise was a man for ages - I won't name names, but that's a good thing.

I can you totally understand why regular posters here have their spidey senses tingling at posts like this.

AssassinatedBeauty · 04/05/2018 13:06

"got lost in the hate directed to the post"

Mate, you have not had any hate directed towards you. Just some mild admonishment and pointing out of the flaws in your thinking. If you think that is "hate" you are very mistaken.

leggere · 04/05/2018 13:07

Right, come on now everyone, let's pull apart everything OP just said! Now.............. where to start?

SweetGrapes · 04/05/2018 13:08

These threads always make me laugh.

I have lurked here for years, read threads, built a reading list a mile long, learnt about feminism and it's different varieties.... laughed at the wit found here, cried and raged against the stories that women put here (and sometimes men)... all without a single post from me.

And then you have a bloke come, announce himself and expect either

(a)everyone drops everything and rushes to answer his questions

(b) everyone listens while he tells the board what's wrong with feminism.

(c) both of the above

Either ways, he rocks up and expects a red carpet.

Hate to break it to you OP, but that's not how this learning business is done.

leggere · 04/05/2018 13:09

I'm out, cos it's effing crap! (I quite like my new way of swearing, btw).

Auntnelly · 04/05/2018 13:17

What’s the relevance of it being your first post Grapes? You’re not after a turn on the red carpet are you?!

MrGHardy · 04/05/2018 13:18

In his Defence to the “educate me women coz I am man”, I see ppl post questions on boards for reasons A to Z, instead of googling it.

I know where you are coming from, I had another account where I was similar and at some point gave that up before reading more, learning, before making this one (a long time later) and contributing. Becaus yes ofc I had learnt and changed. But this kind of attitude simply isn’t solely men demanding things of women or whatever exactly is implied by that quote. It’s pure convenience (laziness) and wanting to engage and interact immediately rather than passively absorb.

ReluctantCamper · 04/05/2018 13:49

It’s pure convenience (laziness) and wanting to engage and interact immediately rather than passively absorb

it's expecting women to put themselves out for your convenience. Women tend not to expect other women to do that.

MillicentF · 04/05/2018 13:50

"Right, come on now everyone, let's pull apart everything OP just said! "

Well,you seem happy to do that for all other posters-why should he be treated any differently? Particularly when he says utter bollocks like 95% of posts have been "hating" on him.....

SweetGrapes · 04/05/2018 14:02

No longer on my first posts Auntnelly. And I've managed just fine without the red carpet.

NoCureForLove · 04/05/2018 14:57

That's a pretty low goal to aim at as a man op - not being violent and nasty - aim higher!

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 15:18

NoCureForLove true, but for myself im realistic, i wont ever achieve great things while fighting my depressive schizophrenia, but for anything that doesnt involve myself im pretty optimistic. one day maybe humans will reach a utopia state, i wont say earth as who knows maybe well move to mars and beyond.

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CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 04/05/2018 15:23

Feminism has given us a voice, let’s use it wisely

Jesus, that's the saddest fucking thing I ever heard.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 15:24

If i can make someones day better regardless of how i feel, ill do it, if learning a bit about feminism to know how to act a little differently makes at least one person happy, then it helps my own psyche as well as making them a little happier too, in my opinion

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