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Shon Faye hassling mumsnet

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SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2018 13:59

twitter.com/shonfaye/status/991568961513893888?s=19

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AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 10:20

You forgot the bit where one of the misogynists wished harm upon the young mother's unborn child. Because nothing says "we're not the baddies, honest" like fantasizing about the death of a child just because a woman wouldn't obey you.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 03/05/2018 10:22

True

cistersofterfy · 03/05/2018 10:24

We all know the inevitable outcome to this sorry mess.

Captain Birdseye will come out as trans. I give her until Monday.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 03/05/2018 10:26

So let me get this straight.

  1. MNHQ decided to pander to an internet misogynist who has advocated the "erasure" of women, and encouraged this misogynist to report posts that the misogynist found transgressive in some way.

  2. Excited by the power over women, the misogynist decided to dox a young mother who disagreed with the misogynist on Twitter.

  3. After the misogynist had published the young mother's details, she received death threats from the misogynist's misogynist friends.

Do I have it right?

Yup...like I said, dark soul!

R0wantrees · 03/05/2018 10:27

Excited by the power

"I've got 30k followers"

Ellenripleysalienbaby · 03/05/2018 10:44

Captain Birdseye will come out as trans.

😂

I'm still laughing at 'under birds eye' from yesterday too!

Scabbersley · 03/05/2018 11:04

I've got 30k followers

that was pathetic

doctorcuntybollocks · 03/05/2018 11:09

Elletorro, your appeals to Shon's better nature will fail because Shon doesn't have a better nature.

Collidascope · 03/05/2018 11:20

I've got 30k followers

I do wonder if Twitter and social media in general appeals to TRAs like Shon so much because they can hide the indicators of their sex more easily. You can post up a heavily altered photo, posing so your jawline is mainly hidden etc. and no one can hear what is undoubtedly a man's voice. I believe even for the "trans women are women" crew, it must be utterly jarring to hear a man's voice when India Willoughby or Shon Faye are speaking.

FlaviaAlbia · 03/05/2018 11:21

Not really LastGirlOnTheLeft, Shon retweeted a comment from Dax and that's when the twitter threats started. Horrific, but not unusual for twitter, MRA's and TRA's.

Later Dax posted on a thread that this had happened. She'd only a few posts describing this and no other posts under that nn. Shon then reported Dax to MNHQ after reading the thread and linking the twitter account and username.

I'm not really sure doxed is the right word. It's not the same as when that lunatic of an ex MP doxed Sphero as no personal information was made public.

That doesn't negate the bullying and vindictive behaviour on twitter, but best to get the timeline right.

noeffingidea · 03/05/2018 11:22

I suggest we all ignore Shon and go and make ourselves a lovely fishfinger butty while enjoying some Erasure.

Amalfimamma · 03/05/2018 11:22

He's backkkkkkkkkkkkk

Shon Faye hassling mumsnet
R0wantrees · 03/05/2018 11:23

I wonder if the lawyers are lined up?

Amalfimamma · 03/05/2018 11:26

wonder if the lawyers are lined up? as in like a firing squad?

I doubt shon will go down the legal route seeing the illegalities on his Twitter and the libel he spewed on the BBC. Why do you think he's not invited on the telly any more?

FlaviaAlbia · 03/05/2018 11:27

Good plan noeffingidea

I'm going for a peanut butter and banana sandwich I think. If it was good enough for Elvis, its good enough for me Smile

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AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 11:28

Well, I guess boring everyone to sleep would be one potential plan...

WanderinWomb · 03/05/2018 11:29

Great idea noeffingidea .

I must say Bird's Eye fish fingers really are the queen of prepared frozen fishy snacks.
Though a soft spot will be always be reserved for Admiral's pie.
I'm inclusive after all.

Amalfimamma · 03/05/2018 11:30

Shon also deleted his tweets doxxing dax last night.

Thank God we know how to screenshot though. Even with lady brain

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 03/05/2018 11:34

More ponderings on boundary violations..

I've been thinking about the body dysphoria bind - ie- needing to prove you have 'lived as' the opposite sex for 2 years in order to get hormones/surgery/GRC

A change needs to occur.

The medical professionals need to emphasise that proof of having 'violated women's boundaries' should not be a pre-requisite for getting hormones and surgery - there should be other ways of assessing if the body dysphoria is so persistent that life-changing hormones and surgery are a 'sensible' option.

For example keeping a diary of thoughts and feelings about one's body, or having ongoing therapy for dysphoria, that kind of thing, as proof of a psychological condition.

Needing proof of having made other people pretend against their wishes or proof of having persistently entered women's spaces you are not entitled to enter, is institutionalising the violation of women's boundaries and the gaslighting of others, and is completely unacceptable.

If the kind of proof required changed from 'living as' to 'definitely having a persistent dysphoria' it would mean that the genuinely dysphoric would be able to deal with their condition with the more extreme end of interventions, without encroaching upon women.

IMO GRCs are unethical and should be scrapped - since they are a legal license to violate, lie, gaslight and usurp.

Amalfimamma · 03/05/2018 11:40

Just to let you all know the Twitter handle mumsnet transphobia ARE NOT obscuring usernames on their Twitter feed.

KatherinaMinola · 03/05/2018 11:40

Have you seen the thoughtful, considered, moderate "hate speech" posted on the Mumsnet Transphobia Twitter account?

FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends · 03/05/2018 11:46

I see one of my posts was hailed as dreadful transphobia because I said males are not females.

spontaneousgiventime · 03/05/2018 11:48

SakuraNoSeirei - from Twitter

Just put a link to this thread on Twitter, it will be easier than SS each post.

HTH

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