MNHQ Deletion Policy

[TheUterati]

Earlier today the Trans Park Run thread was deleted in its entirety because SOME posts alleging cheating were deemed to be 'not in the spirit' of MN.

We have a thread about that running.

I have just been deleted on the Heather Peto thread for posting this:

"Bless..."

A post intended to be mildly dismissive.

That was deleted for breaking talk guidelines.

Give me a fucking break MNHQ.

"Bless..." gets a deletion!??!?!

TRA really have got you on a short chain, haven't they?

Your objective observation seems very different to most people's though.

What on earth is that assertion based on? (tbh I'm not convinced 'most people' really understand objective observation anyway)

Goodness the transactivists are truly authoritarian. I am interested in the idea of coercive control of the moderators - this looks like it.

and Refuse you are back to making transphobic posts again.

Is reality transphobic?

Talking about reality, I'm interested in whether supermatch has a name for the class of humans of ggdxsex that gestated and bears young. Because that class does exist, it does have a reality, and we don't seem to have a word to describe it any more.

Is reality transphobic?

Science is transphobic. Everything is transphobic.

Your objective observation seems very different to most people's though

Pull the other one SupermatchGame. Everyone knows what a woman is. We all came out of one.

IWillReportAllTransphobicPosts
Many of us here are very sympathetic to people suffering from gender dysphoria. It must be a very distressing condition to live with. Several other parents of children who identify as trans have posted here, and they get a lot of support and sympathy.

The reason you are getting a different reaction is because you came on here and called everyone transphobic. You also said your child was 'womanly', which implies that being a woman is a performance or a costume. I'm sure you can see why that isn't going to go down well on a feminist forum. Saying that someone who was born male is male-bodied is simply scientific fact.

Being mistrustful of men being allowed to self Id as women does not mean hating transwomen. Wanting to retain women's rights does not mean hatred of transwomen.

Telling a toddler they cannot have another ice cream usually results in 'you hate me'. I see many parallels.

And they need to look at the whole body of posts, rather than just individual posts...

Surgery and hormones don't make you change sex.

They can't change you into a biological woman. No amount of surgery can do that.
It can make you legally recognised as a woman though, just like a woman who fully transitions to male would legally be a man.
Not biological, granted, but a legally recognised one.

In what way?

In that trans women legally becoming women/ female isn't about them possessing ova or having to. That isn't a criterion for being legally female. That has been objectively stated by the law.

In that if someone has been through a legal and medical transition process, most of society considers them to be the sex (or gender) of their acquired sex, for the vast majority of purposes. You focus on the difference. Most of society focuses currently on the similarities. I think this might be because you are transmisogynistic.

Is reality transphobic?

do you know what else is transphobic? Donkeys. Fucking transphobic bastards. Keeping the rhinos out of the sanctuaries.

most of society considers them to be the sex (or gender) of their acquired sex, for the vast majority of purposes.

No they don't. They do it because it is polite. They don't often have relationships which is why the Cotton Ceiling is a [rapey] thing.

In some countries, blasphemy is a crime. That doesn't prove God exists and is easily offended. Law can be irrational, and rational opinions can be legally suppressed.

It can make you legally recognised as a woman though

No surgery or hormones are required for a male to legally be called female. All you need is that piece of paper to tell the lie for you.

Good response OldCrone

More presuming hateloggingin

My daughter rarely wears heels, has her own very long hair and isn’t particularly into makeup

She is very pretty and yes some of her friends are jealous.

Is is really so hard for you to look beyond the typical trans stereotype?

iwill would you consider that sometimes a person may refer to a trans woman as having a male body because they need to be able to make the distinction between them and a woman? We've been told that to call them a man, or male, is offensive, so that seems like the next best way of putting it. The problem with using just "trans woman" is that wider society often thinks that means a woman who identifies as a man, ie a trans man.

Is it so hard to look beyond stereotypical gender stereotypes Iwill?

I'm not pretty. At all. Definitely a woman.

Forcibly shutting people up doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. In fact it tends to make them bloody angry and push them into acting. That's how Brexit happened, it's how Trump happened.

This is not a helpful policy to anyone, the TRA lobby in particular. On the other hand it does show up the lunacy, the scariness and the fear of women being allowed to talk and stand up for their rights for exactly what it is. MPs and Journalists following these threads please take note.

Exactly. Some boys are very pretty.

SupermatchGame, I presume you accept that members of the sex class that produce large immobile gametes and can gestate young have some distinct and unique needs not shared by people who aren't members of that sex class?

wouldn't it be great if there was a word to describe members of that sex class?

Hang on! There is! And (except by the performatively woke) its meaning is universally understood.

Yes you've guess it - it's woman