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MNHQ Deletion Policy

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TheUterati · 30/04/2018 17:03

Earlier today the Trans Park Run thread was deleted in its entirety because SOME posts alleging cheating were deemed to be 'not in the spirit' of MN.

We have a thread about that running.

I have just been deleted on the Heather Peto thread for posting this:

"Bless..."

A post intended to be mildly dismissive.

That was deleted for breaking talk guidelines.

Give me a fucking break MNHQ.

"Bless..." gets a deletion!??!?!

TRA really have got you on a short chain, haven't they?

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RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 21:58

red I know what you mean - it is so fucking wrong. It is even worse when someone is lecturing you that fucking wrong is actually right.

Head-fucking, mind-game bastards. Angry

ScrappyScrap · 30/04/2018 21:59

I think people of an authoritarian persuasion whether they believe in religion, fairies, whatever, should be screened out

Yes, good luck with screening out the religious.

Hateloggingin · 30/04/2018 21:59

WHAT??? I don’t understand, what did I get deleted for now??

Does anyone know??

SophoclesTheFox · 30/04/2018 21:59

Don't leave, kittens. Your posts are ace.

Things will get better. Two steps forward, one back.

Remember that we're in a relay race, passing the baton when runners get tired, sticking up for women always.

Be good to yourselves, wimz Flowers

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 21:59

Not self-care, more reluctance to support an organization that's so blatantly failing to support women.

Ereshkigal · 30/04/2018 21:59

In the back of ones head you always KNOW. And unless you are at peace with the reality of your biology and understand that the best you can hope for is building trust and respect through talking rather than by force it will always eat you alive in the end.

Absolutely. They channel all this personal anger into righteous hatred of feminist women. A coping mechanism. Look at the San Francisco library exhibition.

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2018 22:00

I don't get why people are not understanding the escalation.

I am constantly trying to work against that.

Yet the deletion decisions tonight are having exactly that effect.

How the fuck does that help anyone?

Im serious MNHQ what are you trying to achieve here?

Talk people round. CALM THEM DOWN.

Instead you are doing the opposite.

Moderation isnt just about hitting delete.

ReluctantCamper · 30/04/2018 22:00

agreed ScrappyScrap

I know they don't have to let us talk. I always try to remember that.

It's why Women's Place is so important actually. We need a back up plan if this place gets taken away.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 22:01

WHAT??? I don’t understand, what did I get deleted for now??

Did you think forbidden thoughts while writing your comment? The Ministry of Truth would like a word with you. How many fingers am I holding up?

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 22:01

good luck with screening out the religious.

Authoritarian being key.

HelloBlueSkies · 30/04/2018 22:01

I was on that thread (under a different name, I name change quite a lot). It was really interesting and even more interesting that it's been deleted...

SophoclesTheFox · 30/04/2018 22:03

Oh, this is bad.

For heaven's sake will you please step away from the delete button, MNHQ? You are inflaming this with every deletion.

I hate that it seems like we're piling on you, but what happened to the statement on free speech? All the effort everyone has been making to Go High? And then this, tonight?

Ereshkigal · 30/04/2018 22:03

If you want to, and only if you do, Kittens, PM me if you do go. Would like to keep in touch.

AnitaLovesVictor · 30/04/2018 22:03

Red is right to be distressed. Women are being silenced, now even on Mumsnet. Our very biology, discussions about it, are now deemed transphobic. So women have to shut up.

I'm distressed, I came that close to flouncing off MN this afternoon, when I saw that the Parkrun thread had been deleted. I didn't see the last couple of hours of it, so I don't know what was said at the end - but that was an important discussion about women's sport, and defining women as a biological category.

This sucks, MNHQ - and this is not what I expected from Justine's triumphant herald of free speech in the media, and on the radio.

thebewilderness · 30/04/2018 22:03

AngryAttackKittens
Oh no you do not! It is not allowed.

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 22:05

I'd love to Ereshkigal but MNHQ refuse to answer my question about whether or not the mods have access to our PMs at this point in time. I don't think it's a good idea to share identifying information there until we know for sure that they don't.

Ereshkigal · 30/04/2018 22:06

I don't know what was said at the end - but that was an important discussion about women's sport, and defining women as a biological category.

Some melodramatic pearl clutcher doesn't understand that "transphobia" does not = failing to submit to an Orwellian belief system that men can be women. i said nothing that hasn't been said here a million times before.

thebewilderness · 30/04/2018 22:06

Women's rights have been declared to be anti trans, just as they were declared to be anti men in our foremothers day.
We must not stand down from this battle in the war on women.

Hateloggingin · 30/04/2018 22:06

AngryAttackKittens, I actually was :(

Seriously though I thought I was just explaining why I hate jealousy being used to bash women. I won’t repear what I said again as it’ll go poof again probably.

Was it because I said a trans person could never be the sex (biologically) they wanted to transition into? That’s factual isn’t it? I’m not lying just so I don’t get deleted, that’s ridiculous

SophoclesTheFox · 30/04/2018 22:06

And now for my calm posting:

I can only imagine the deep joy that this thread and the deletions is causing in certain quarters.

Don't give anyone the satisfaction of thinking they got to you.

Deep breaths. Nevertheless, she persisted.

Ereshkigal · 30/04/2018 22:06

I'll share mine. You don't have to.

PoulaFisch · 30/04/2018 22:07

*Today 21:59 AngryAttackKittens

Not self-care, more reluctance to support an organization that's so blatantly failing to support women.*

Don't you mean reluctance to support your point of view?

Ereshkigal · 30/04/2018 22:07

I imagine she knows what she meant.

thebewilderness · 30/04/2018 22:08

They did say in a thread about the breach that they have access to our messages.

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 22:08

If this really does turn to shit, we can set up our own forum.

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