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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If WEP decided Sex Matters would you join?

197 replies

womanhuman · 09/04/2018 11:50

By which I mean continued protection of women/girl-only spaces (physical spaces, services, organisations, stats, programmes) on a sex-not-gender basis.

I would.

Because nearly everything else follows from maintaining that distinction.

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Ereshkigal · 09/04/2018 11:53

Yes.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 09/04/2018 11:54

I would definitely seriously consider it

Especially in the light of Sophie Walker's swerfy stance on twitter atm

MrsUnderwood · 09/04/2018 11:54

I’d consider it, yes.

DancingLedge · 09/04/2018 11:54

Probably

QueenLaBeefah · 09/04/2018 11:55

Probably.

GoodyMog · 09/04/2018 11:55

Yes

Winewinewinegin · 09/04/2018 11:56

Yes, I think so, if biological women remain a protected legal and social category and can be named as such including separate stats, provisions where appropriate ( e.g. Crime stats, pay etc). And freedom of speech to point out differences and issues between trans identifying males and women and tackle them as we do with men.

AncientLights · 09/04/2018 11:56

If WEP was the only party that took that stance, then yes. It would be like voting for them. I have vowed never to vote for the rest of my life for any of these toady, weasly parties who deny my most basic self.

LangCleg · 09/04/2018 11:57

Very possibly. I'd need a clear, manifesto-led commitment to no self-ID GRA amendment, clarification and strengthening of EqA sex exemptions, and the Nordic model. Also something about redressing the impact austerity has had on low income women.

Then I would join.

HermioneWeasley · 09/04/2018 11:58

Yes

Noqonterf · 09/04/2018 11:59

Yes I think I probably would.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 09/04/2018 11:59

Yes

PissedOffWoman · 09/04/2018 12:00

Yes. Right now I feel politically homeless.

DrudgeJedd · 09/04/2018 12:00

Yes.
I can't vote for any political party right now. The libdems are a particular horror show re this at the moment, their lgbt social media accounts are actually gleeful at losing potential voters over this Confused

ReappearingWoman · 09/04/2018 12:00

Every other party has thrown women under a bus to be 'woke' on trans stuff & WEP are the same. I cancelled my membership after the web chats here. If they did change their stance on this, I would reconsider because no other party at the moment are willing to properly engage with women. If any of them should it's WEP, but given their initial digging heels in on this, I'm skeptical until I see clear unequivocal policy that says sex matters.

Badgerthebodger · 09/04/2018 12:03

Yes I think I would as well. As Lang said it would have to be fairly set in stone that they would not change their stance as they will come under enormous pressure if they go public with a GC stance and oppose self ID

OddBoots · 09/04/2018 12:03

Yes. I had assumed from the off that they would do this, it seems such a fundamental thing, I only turned away when they expressed such a meaningless definition of woman - once they did that then everything else they said was rendered entirely meaningless too.

BoreOfWhabylon · 09/04/2018 12:03

Yes.

Cuntysnark · 09/04/2018 12:04

Probably. LangCleg I agree with your stance.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 09/04/2018 12:04

I'd seriously consider it.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 09/04/2018 12:05

Yes and I know my Dsis who also feels currently politically homeless would do so too.

WrongOnTheInternet · 09/04/2018 12:06

It would help.
I would also like a strong statement about how the commodification of women's bodies isn't good and impacts on all of us. Less of the 'empowering' women to 'choose' the job which is 'just a job like any other' crap in sex work and porn.

Alwayswonderingwhere · 09/04/2018 12:07

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UpstartCrow · 09/04/2018 12:08

They would have to apologise to Heather Brunskell Evans.
They would also have to offer a reduced fee for women on low incomes.

AbsintheFriends · 09/04/2018 12:09

Yes.