To any trans activists reading this forum

[yetanothertranswoman]

Fuck off fucking life up for those trans people trying to live our lives.

I heard about some of the stuff people like you got up to but I've had my eyes opened today. Seriously opened.

Stop talking about lady penises.
Stop saying you are a woman.
Stop demanding women be quiet when they raise concerns about what's happening.
Stop harassing woman online
Stop intimidating women trying to speak about their concerns.
Stop initimidating women trying to do a clothes swap.
Stop demanding access to female spaces and just saying "It will be ok"
Stop taking women's spaces as women's officers when you haven't got a fucking clue about life as a woman.

All you are fucking doing is making life more difficult for the rest of us and scaring the shit out of women.

Yes - trans people exist. Some of us have gender dysphoria which is bloody hard to live with. Some people just seem to think that putting on a skirt is enough to make you 'a woman'.

Are you capable of thinking about women and their concerns? All I've seen online is people saying it will be ok.

No - trans people are not the enemy. But there are some trans people and trans activists who scare the shit out of me with their demands and their behaviour.

I've tried to keep my head low and keep out of all this. But no more.

You don't speak for me and you don't speak for many trans people out there.

I’m with fanny

If gender is a social construct ...then it’s not real is it ? Just societal stereotypes.

I mean I get that people do not feel right as their biological sex and that’s (I think ?) what’s gender dysphoria is ?

But this whole ..I feel like a lady so I wear dresses thing ..makes no sense to me. The clothing doesn’t make you female. I’m not a man when I wear my trousers and work boots. I’m still female. Just in trousers.

I hope I’m making sense.

Thank you Just and can I just say I’m sorry that you are stuck in the middle of all of this. It must be very difficult for you to read the anger, aggression and threats from the TRAs/MRAs towards women and know that you may suffer as a result of being on the side of women. Just know that the vast majority of feminists on Mumsnet do not include you in the misogynistic people that we’re fighting for protection from. I’ve typed things in anger and would hate you to think that I’m against genuine transsexuals. I’ve read your posts and appreciate your support. 🌹

Thank you op

Sorry, I meant yetanothertranswoman. Didn’t copy and paste without checking.

Very well said

Well said yetanother.

Also want to thank OP for this. I have read such dreadful things that 'TERF's want: no human rights for trans people, for them to be killed ... I won't go on as you all know it. I have never heard this expressed by any woman - though you can never say never about human beings & there may be some total nut jobs out there - all I want us to have my substantial concerns listened to, not be scared to express my views and generally not feel as though I'm living in a totalitarian state. Much love to OP. Xx

Sorry you are being thrown under a bus by these people. I've come to the conclusion that the most vocal TRAs don't actually give a shit about trans folk with dysphoria, they are actually just MRAs who have found a 'progressive' way to bully women and be considered the good guys whilst doing so.

Thanks OP for your thoughts. I was just musing the other day how much support I have for trans women and the fight for equality, dignity and safety, and how I'd be on the barricades with them if we didn't have the trans women = women mantra. It made me quite sad, what's wrong with being a trans woman? Isn't that in itself something to be celebrated and supported without diminishing women's rights? Why are we not uniting against male privilege/violence and using our differences as a strength?

Well said OP!

Thank you so much. This must be very hard for you.

YetAnother... Thank you. From myself, and on behalf of a couple of Transsexual mates who feel pretty much the same way as you.

Thank you 🙏

Thank you OP, and Another Quoll.

and or (or both) according to your mood, yetanother Thank you for this. And I'm happy to stand in solidarity with you - I want your rights protected, I want you to be safe and able to lead your life without harassment or discrimination. The transactivist nutters are making life harder for all of us.

I need my voice to be heard. Reading some of the stuff today on other social media sites and seeing that a woman has been targeted simply for wanting to have clothes swap has really opened my eyes. I explored some of the stuff the activists have been saying and in this past week, I've been blocked, told that my concerns are unwarranted and seen blatant lies on social media from trans people who are in positions of influence.

I fear a backlash. The articles in the press really worry me - but I can see why people are concerned. And I have not heard even one prominent trans activist say 'Hang on, I can see that there are issues". Not one looking at the issue from a woman's perspective.

Thanks for the I've not had any yet even though that first post sounds like it was under the influence.

This is what has concerned me about all the hoo-ha - that people will wary of (and less supportive/sympathetic/patient of) anyone with a 'trans' label and lump them all together as agitators, aggressive bullies, troublemakers and thiefs.