Woman questioned under caution and banned from leaving the country for criticising Mermaids

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www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/tough-millwall-cave-in-to-transgender-bullies-nltnkpv3d

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Meanwhile, a woman who criticised a transgender charity on Twitter has been questioned under caution by police and told she will be arrested if she tries to leave the country. Kellie-Jay Keen- Minshull accused the group Mermaids of “suppressing free speech”.

She had accused Mermaids, which calls for children to be allowed irreversible sex-change treatment the NHS currently prohibits, of “prey[ing]” on gay teenagers and of “mass child abuse”. Mermaids declined to comment.

Women get rape and violence threat via twitter all the damn time and no one cares. People get racial abuse every day.
Why are they making such a drama out of this?

Bangkok, Andrew Gilligan was the one who wrote the article on MESMAC.

I've just looked at his Twitter and he is saying "Brian Mynott, a local therapist who works with abuse victims, says he has spoken to a further three people who claimed to have been sexually harassed or asked for sex by Mesmac staff when they went there for help."

and...

"As early as 2009 at least three Mesmac trustees, including the then chair, resigned "en bloc" because of their concern about its "unacceptable" conduct policy and lack of professionalism, one of those who resigned says. (Mesmac denies they resigned over the conduct policy.)"

Gilligan has been separately critical of Mermaids. But I think he sees it as two separate bodies acting unprofessionally, but independently of each other. Which may be the case.

One thing, though. Gilligan is not a man who is going to let this go.

I won't speculate on MESMAC again on this thread, don't want to derail from Posie's situation. I will keep an eye on the press and start a new thread if any more information comes to light.

for Posie.

Popchyk Another dubious decision in West Yorks.

I know misogyny isn't a hate crime but between us someone must have received some abusive racist/lesbophobic tweets that would fall under the legislation. It would be interesting to report a selection and see what response we get total disinterest

Thank you posie for speaking the truth. Will donate when I can.

Presumably if the child is really a girl then the surgery is FGM and thus there a some legal issues for the parent? FGM is horrific, castration is genital mutilation + removal of testes and fertility.

SimonBridges
Women get rape and violence threat via twitter all the damn time and no one cares.
What is the response from the police when you report these?

Popchyk, dubious friendships and ignoring reports of abuse are nothing new for the West Yorkshire police. They were also big mates with Jimmy Savile.

Sitting: "Presumably if the child is really a girl then the surgery is FGM and thus there a some legal issues for the parent?"

Your logic is impeccable.

But even without the debate about whether the child is male or female, then surely it's illegal to perform mutilating surgery on your child? If it would be illegal to have it done in the UK, then wouldn't it be equally illegal to take your child to another country to be done? Just as it would be if you were a parent who took your child to another country to have FGM.

Why hasn't the CEO of Mermaids been prosecuted for child abuse?

I've just donated to the crowd funder here. I wish it could have been more @posieparker - you're so brave for not backing down and saying 2+2 = 5 after all.

Again, I'm overwhelmed. I mean, I knew people cared about this stuff but I didn't realise how much x

medium.com/@ThePosieParker/fighting-for-free-speech-the-ordinary-woman-9c262e61d0e3

posie

Wow posie, the speed your fund is growing is amazing!

We got your back ✊

Posie - even if you are not charged, you should use the money to make legally-backed complaints to the police (and, perhaps, to Twitter).

Lang - my thoughts too, although not my place to suggest - obviously have to check with contributors I guess - but I would support that.

Donation made. First crowd funding donation I've ever made! How exciting. It feels good to actually be doing something.

Anything we can do to cheer you up, Posie?

Who will play you when this whole thing is made into a film?

I'm thinking Carey Mulligan or Julianne Moore.

Probably Denzel Washington as your older, well-spoken solicitor.

@TimbuktuTimbuktu
Have you received threats of violence? If so, you should report them to the police who should take action. The police only got involved in Posie's case because Mermaids reported her.

CPS Guidance
Part A: Offence types
This Part addresses the offences commonly committed via social media and identifies four distinct categories of offences.
Category 1
Communications which may constitute threats of violence to the person or damage to property.

Delurking to offer support. Posie you are incredibly brave and an inspiration. I’ve only just twigged that you are also Kellie from Wiltshire who was treated so appallingly by the aptly named, O’Brien on LBC. Your written response to that encounter was so moving and powerful. Keep fighting.

You can contribute to Kellie-Jay's fighting fund here:
www.crowdfunder.co.uk/fighting-for-free-speech-in-uk

"Posie you are incredibly brave and an inspiration. I’ve only just twigged that you are also Kellie from Wiltshire who was treated so appallingly by the aptly named, O’Brien on LBC."

I didn't realise that either. That was so upsetting.

This is really starting to feel like a war on women.

Mothering.... yes it's me.!!

Donated to the crowdfunder for Posie Parker.

It's absolutely horrendous you have been targeted like this. Hope you can get a shit hot legal team!

Who will play you when this whole thing is made into a film? I was thinking this about JJ the other day!

We need a whole new thread on the cast of this fast paced, action filled, ball busting blockbuster

@MotheringShites do you have a link to the interaction Posie had with O'Brien (or her response?). I would be interested to hear/read this.