Biological SEX MATTERS. How many mumsnetters say "aye" to this campaign?

[SexMatters]

This document and campaign called 'Sex Matters' is a collaborative effort by amazing and knowledgeable mumsnetters on a couple of threads in FWR.

To move forward with the campaign, the organisations and individuals approached will need to know who is behind it, and the honest truth, is that mumsnetters have spearheaded it.

That does not mean that other campaigners can't get involved or even take greater ownership of it. But it needs a bio in order to introduce it to people and organisations to get started and I need your consent to describe the campaign this way: 'mumsnetter led' (and maybe even some suggestions for writing a bio on this thread).

So, you amazing gender-critical mumsnetters, do you say 'aye'?

You are doing such a good job!

I actually think it would be good not to link with other campaigns and keep this separate. That way this stays completely focussed on the right to single sex spaces and doesn’t bring trans into it at all.

Thanks, great ideas lemon and betsy and thanks Longines too - of course it is your place to say - I really appreciate your input even if you do say "nay".

thanks titchy and Akire
And lemon I agree that it is better to keep the focus narrow and avoid getting dragged into using the word 'gender'. Any spokespeople for this campaign are going to have to be trained like McDonald's employees to correct "sex" every time someone uses the word gender!

Aye

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I think if you did a petition you would have to use your real name. How about the action just being- if you agree with this please write to your MP/MSP?

Do you have the document as a pdf on the website? That way people can download it and attach it to their emails and you could track number of downloads to gauge interest.

Love the bio!

"I will not accept this anti-science, anti-fact and utterly nonsensical ideology and I certainly will not glibly accept its codification into law."

"I do not see any issue with a trans person as a teacher, police officer etc, but I do have a problem with the double speak to say they are female."

Sums it up perfectly. From me (and from my adult DD) it's Aye.

AYE

Can I add AYE , AYE from my adult daughter and her friend. They aren't on mn but were shocked at the things I was telling and showing them.

Just set up twitter. Maybe it would be worth getting people to notify @SexMattersUK or using #SexMatters to collate relevant issues? eg - to tweet "just went into toilets - turns out there are urinals in here and feel pretty weird #SexMatters" for example...

This is going so well. I won't comment as it is all covered. If you want to add to list of people, although brevity is important so may not be space, I'm a child protection social worker.

Aye

The mention of the girl guides- should it be mentioned there that this includes camping out/ overnights etc. Not just a few activities on a Tuesday evening for a couple of hours. It reminds people about the children's vulnerability - like the teens in Topshop.

I'm new to the feminism boards - so feel free to ignore, but just my observation as an outsider really. I think the word "feminism" is narrowing the argument - I think it needs to break out and be mainstream and include people that switch off at the phrase "feminism".

I came across the poll via active conversations rather than the Feminism board as such (I know a pedantic kind of difference).

What word would you go for @aRespectableBureaudeChange? How would you prevent it from suffering the same fate as the word "feminism"?

A group of MN posters - all people should be interested in this issue - and I'd like to see it break out of "Owen Jones against feminists". It should be Owen Jones etc against any sane thinking person. Widen ithe issue rather than reinforce how Corbyn etc. would like to present it currently.

Aye

That's interesting respectable - people have been commenting on the thread that this is the opinion held by a niche group in the feminist board and for that reason it would be inaccurate to mention meeting on MN..

Aye

Thanks terfmore

Well it's shown up in active conversations most days, and I think that is how lots of people use MN - they don't search through boards as such just drop into an active conversation.

It's how I came across it, having managed to skip all the other threads as I very mistakenly assumed that my comments would be irrelevant.

It's just my observation anyway - you've all done a sterling job in educating people on this issue - I'm just worried that as someone that's generally fairly switched on, I have just switched off until now on this issue as really the left are eating themselves and it isn't enjoyable to watch. My fail clearly.

Aye

I take your point and think that meeting on MN is enough!