Evidence of misandry on Feminist chat.

[UpstartCrow]

The last few days, there have been several claims of misandry on Feminist Chat. Please post examples here using a link and screen shot.

Thank you.

*and avoid them

That thread went;
I don't really want to feel like this. I have a son who I want to bring up/am bringing up to be a feminist but I'm worried about how my hateful feelings towards men are going to rub off on my dc.

I suppose I am asking if there is a way I can combat these feelings and start to feel more positively towards them.''*

Yes one abusive father and one entitled husband and a few other silly sexist men around me are seriously clouding my view. I don't really have good male friends to balance it out

We are reading the same threads and reaching a different conclusion.

Sophocles,

First off, read through the entire thread, not just the op. Secondly I can never prove it in terms that are acceptable to you, any more than you can prove that the uk is sexist in terms that are acceptable to me.

You cannot get clean data on human behaviour and thought.

I have, however, produced evidence suggesting that the FWR boards are misandrist. Clearly people will draw their own conclusions which, given the bias, will say they are not (despite many actual posts describing hating men (the dictionary definition of misandry)).

The OP asked people to post examples of misandry

Those threads are not about hating men, but about the actions of men against women inciting fear of hating men.

A reaction to men's actions, not an action against men.

I do find it quite entertainingly ironic in a mote-in-the-eye way that Larry is so keen to root out the misandry without taking as the starting point the possibility that doing so actually demonstrates the undercurrent of his own misogyny

Now here comes the ad hominem attack, so predictable...

I was on that thread, Larry, under another name. So I have read it, and more.

And no, just stating that you've proved it doesn't mean you've proved it. Not even to people struggling under the lack of objectivity caused by the ladybrain

How about you post the same question in AIBUor chat and see what women think. Even invite only females to reply. Of course you cannot screen out the odd lying male but you might get a wider reflection of what the majority of women think.

Oh, sorry, that would be the majority of those pesky ‘handmaidens’.

Sophocles,

There are some brilliant women on here. I hate to generalise by sex, unlike some. However your particular brain may wish to note that I clearly stated I had not proved it. So now we have ad hominem and straw man...

OK, seeing as the definition of misandry is actually
Dislike of, contempt for, and prejudice against men
(Doesn't refer to actions. Just feelings etc)
So actually hands up, larrygrylls has made his point.
A woman came to feminist chat to discuss her growing feelings of misandry. (Because of bad treatment from men).

What do we learn from this? Either feminist chat is a misandrist hive mind, or a place to explore various feelings and ideas surrounding the relationship between men and women.

I'm just going to reiterate that I don't give a shiny shit if some random bloke giving it the large on a feminist message board has decided that I hate all blokes.

I honestly don't see what other response is necessary unless there's a game to be enjoyed in taking the piss out of that random bloke.

The OP asked people to post examples of misandry

Did she ? The OP said there have been several claims of misandry on Feminist Chat. Please post examples here using a link and screen shot

It is still not clear to me what she is looking The only examples she has posted were of other posters stating that threads contained misandry. I.e. she identified "claims of misandry" (which I assume she thinks are ill founded) rather than misandry.

Thats one post that displays misandry.

If I saw one post on a forum for men saying 'After some bad experiences I think I'm becoming a a misogynist, I have children and don't want them to pick up these feelings' I'm not convinced I'd use it as an example of rampant misogyny.

I might pop over to Reddit, maybe the Incel area, see if I can find some evidence of misogyny and see what they make of it when I point it out ... ...

Reddit banned Incels, their posts went too far.

www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/7bgw51/rincels_is_now_banned/

I wonder why men get so pissed off at the notion that some women might hate them. If I were a man, I would EXPECT a lot of women to hate me. Why do men think they can stand back and watch while men rape, abuse, assault and murder women and yet have women harbour no feelings of resentment or hatred?

OR...now that I think about it, they are DESPERATE for women to hate men and they only ACT pissed off, as secretly they are overjoyed that the acts of of utter misogyny men demonstrate every single second of every single day might appear to be not that bad coz look...women hate men!

I am a fellow traveller with radfems on many issues like trans, anti-prostitution, and I am finding modern pornography troubling. However I do feel there is an undercurrent of misandry interwoven into a lot of feminist ideology, if not practice. Happy to to stand in solidarity on issues I agree with, and individual feminists can be perfectly lovely.

Why do men think they can stand back and watch while men rape, abuse, assault and murder women and yet have women harbour no feelings of resentment or hatred?
Quite.
I also posted on the starting to hate men thread and from what I can recall, the OP wanted advice but instead got derailed by spectacular testeria and mantrums.

One of my recent favourites was here from SofieMonde equating males to assholes.

Why do men think they can stand back and watch while men rape, abuse, assault and murder women and yet have women harbour no feelings of resentment or hatred?

There is some misandry right there, the whole notion that non-raping, non-abusing, non-assaulting and non-murdering men should be throwing themselves in the path of any harm that might befall a woman. Are these men so fundementally disposable and worthless that they should expect seething resentment from women if they don't perform their manly duties?

If you make all men responsible for all violence then you cannot do so without victim blaming the ones who don't commit it and may very well be the victims of it. Men are far more likely to be the victims of murder and assault after all.

I don't know if it's misandry, per se, but I donthink the near universal belief that men (as a class) should be obligated to act as protectors and enforcers in the interests of women (as a class) is ironically oppressive.

“There is some misandry right there, the whole notion that non-raping, non-abusing, non-assaulting and non-murdering men should be throwing themselves in the path of any harm that might befall a woman. Are these men so fundementally disposable and worthless that they should expect seething resentment from women if they don't perform their manly duties?”

I don’t expect men to throw themselves physically into the path of any harm that might befall women. I DO expect them to speak up about male violence to other men and make it clear they find it unacceptable. I expect them to educate their boys in how to manage emotion and frustration. I expect them to speak out when other men make rape jokes. I expect them them to reject porn and prostitution. I expect them to DO SOMETHING!!!

If women were killing and abusing men at the same rate men were doing it to women, you can bet your life I would stand up and speak out....NOT IN MY NAME! Men seem to prefer to stay silent and do nothing in case they get attacked too. Cowards, are they?