Who's up for a self-ID day of activism?

[YesItsADebate]

Following on from my swimming thread, I'd like to guage interest to see who would be interested in taking part in a day where we all self-ID as men and take part in various forms of activism.

Some ideas from the other thread:

• a mass swim in the men's pond in Hampstead;
• manspreading on public transport;
• sunbathing/sauntering around in shorts and flip-flops;
• using the men's loos;
• using men's changing rooms;
• applying for membership of men-only golf clubs, gentlemen's clubs, the Freemasons' men's lodges etc.
• going to men-and-toddler play sessions (with bacon butties!);
• mansplaining, interrupting other participants in meetings and generally acting with a chauvinistic sense of superiority.

I'm sure you can come up with more. Vaguely planning for the summer when it's a bit warmer! Anyone up for it?

Disclaimer: while the law on Exposure (formerly indecent exposure) only applies to genitals, exposing breasts in public may amount to a public nuisance if it's done with the intent to shock, upset or annoy. I'll have a look a bit later for better guidance.

Hahaha, I so want to be a part of this.

PositivelyPERF my jacket is a man's one. I love having 2 inside zip up pockets, plus 4 other pockets, from a very exclusive shop supermarket

Appropriate swimwear suggestion?

Thats brilliant. Like others I would not be happy going topless. But I would wear this, for sure. I think this would get a lot of attention too. Maybe a lot of jokes about us, but it will definitely raise awareness of how batshit this whole selfid thing actually is in practise

About the facebook group though, please please please be careful if you are all using your personal FBs. TRAs have an awful habit of being able to sneak into private groups, or send others in to grab screenshots/names list/etc. Its happened so many times.

So I've just carried out some research on effective protests for man Friday by questioning my DH.
He doesn't care about any of this. Couldn't care less about women in men's changing rooms or toilets, doesn't mind boobs out. Not bothered about women changing tampons or generally having periods. What would bother him is if he needed to wee and had to wait behind a queue of women to use the loos.

I've asked if there is anything else and he said women making a lot of noise.

He's now getting annoyed that I want to bother men. But does understand why we wouldn't want self IDing men in the women's changing room.

DP wouldn’t be bothered about mixed-sex changing either, but we both think it’d be tough on heterosexual older boys or young men who may still be subject to involuntary physiological responses to the naked female body.

I’m marking my place as I’m totally up for this.

I'm marking a little place for myself here. Definitely up for this and would like to join the FB, do I need to PM you my FB email/profile OP?

I've thought of this before, but seeing this tweet reminded me and thought it would perhaps be one for direct activism if anyone fancies taking on the NHS?

I think the NHS has enough to cope with. tbh

I'm absolutely up for this. Thanks op for this and the swimming thread. Genius! Not sure about joining a fb group though. Could create a new profile but then how would you trust it was me as there'd be nothing on my profile?

If anyone would like to join the FB group but hasn’t already, send me a PM with the direct link to your profile, I’ll add you as a friend and can then add you to the group once you accept my friend request. If your FB profile is new then I’ll be able to check your MN history.

Hi *yesitsadebate”. I want to set up a new Facebook, as I can’t risk my current one being doxed, but once I’ve done that I’ll send you a PM. I think you’re being very wise checking history, given we seem to have a few suspicious characters join recently. Just be careful because it only takes a slight change of details, such as a smaller case letter, or extra space and you could end up with an MRA member.

Hooray! I'm in the fb group. Thanks. You're working really hard , it's appreciated.

Yes - and I'm in. Thanks.

Can we cross-pollinate with the Mayday stuff? Seems like a lot of overlap.

signing up thanks!!

Love the Hampstead Heath invasion idea.
OK I love it all.

Can I ask a Facebook question? I've just set up a new account with a fake name. I'm accessing it from an app on my phone. I didn't allow it to search my contacts yet it's suggesting people from my real account as friends. It's even suggested a neighbour I'm not Facebook friends with! I've looked again at all the privacy settings but I must be missing something. Any ideas?

Mine did that too. If you are using the same device, same IP address or haven't cleared your history/cookies then Facebook will still 'link' the accounts.

Ah. That makes sense. Thanks!

I think I’ve added everyone as a friend who’s sent me a PM here. Once you accept my friend request, I can add you to the group. Let me know if you haven’t got a request!

BetsyM00
I LOVE that idea.

Unfortunately my GP is very severe in a head teacher way... and would probably send me home with a bad report.

Ooh I'm in the secret group

Hi, I'm brand new on Mumsnet, still trying to work out how to post a reply on this thread !!

I'd like to join the fb group please.

I'm on fb as Joanna Joy too.

I've already well outed myself as a terf, so not bothered about my names showing !

Can you add me please, yesitsadebate ?

Thanks.

Also up north in Leeds, so we can do some northern action up here !

I’ve PM’ed you Joanna :)