cis is an abusive term

[Horridemma]

I don't want to be called a 'cis' nor referred to as 'cis' in any sort of patronising way. Not sure if I really understand but from the way it is bandied about it does not sound good.

I am a woman not a 'cis'

Thank you for the support.
I agree that within this mind set its not acknowledged that terf is terminology aimed at silencing women
Although I've read it angers 'asshole cis dudes'
What a learning curve Facebook is

Thanks bah

I'm a cis woman. -shrugs-

By that I just mean that I'm not trans.

For many people in the wide world outside the echochamber of feminist chat on MN, the term cis is not problematic.

I'm a committed feminist and I have steered clear of the MN feminist chat threads for years now because they are so anti-trans. You click on 'feminist chat' and literally 90% of the threads are about how horrible trans activists are taking over the world and endangering women.

It's so fucking depressing. Thank you widowwadman for being a lone voice of sanity in this thread.

marfisa please read upthread why the cis-trans model for describing spatial configurations doesn't work for non-spatial things like the relationship between an ontological reality and a cultural concept.

Be correct. Shall jog back to start abs try again.

Saw red earlier - my Terfometer is at exploding point at the moment. Think I should NC to CisMyAngryArse

*and try again

I am a woman. Not cis. I don't have a gender identity at all..yet I still have cis applied to me, when even if I bought into all the gender nonsense, I would not be cis.

Transactivists need to assume that everyone else is 'cis' so that they are special.

And I have only ever seen it used as a slur, or in a very patronising way. But I don't really think it should be banned as MN is a place that allows all debate, I think the less censorship the better.

For many people in the wide world outside the echochamber of feminist chat on MN, the term cis is not problematic.

Absolute rubbish. Most people in the wide world outside the echo chamber of feminist chat on MN have never even heard of the term cis. And when they do, when they see the nature of transactivism outside the brave journey cheerleading by most of the media, they'll be telling transactivists to fuck the fuck off.

Transactivism is the actual echo chamber. A delusional bubble that will pop.

You do understand that people on MN actually live in the real world?

What lang said

I dont know anybody in real life who uses the word cis in any way shape or form

I dont know anybody in real life who uses the word cis in any way shape or form

I know loads of young silly people that use it, including my own three stupid boys. 🙄

Mine dont yet

They do say 'are you assuming my gender'

I think ds boyfriend would like to say it

I was referred to as cis the other week in a FB discussion with someone I have met in real life. I told her in no uncertain terms that I find it offensive, and why.

I do find 'cis' offensive.

By that I just mean that I'm not trans.

Why would you or anyone need to signify that they aren’t trans? surely people can tell you aren’t trans by the fact you don’t call yourself a transwoman/man? Doesn’t referring yourself as a woman/man show you aren’t trans?

Think I should NC to CisMyAngryArse

I love this!

Can anyone give me a short explanation of why 'cis' is offensive? Sorry, don't have time to RTFT now but will come back to it later. Thank you.

Imo if you want a label then give yourself one. However, do NOT try to give me your label that you want me to have. I am a woman. What others call THEMSELVES is their business.

I would guess that at least 95% of the population have never even heard the word "cis", let alone know what it means. So I think that if marfisa imagines that "many people in the wide world outside the echochamber of feminist chat on MN, the term cis is not problematic", she is sadly deluded. Trust me, marfisa, you're the one living in an echo chamber.

saladdays for me, I find it offensive because it assumes I agree with all the assumptions made of me because I was born with a female body. I don't.

If it wasn't for biology, I wouldn't identify with being a 'woman'.

Here is the father of pomo saying what hed do to cis men. But of course hes just joking.

I'm with @PipGirl404 - I can't find it offensive at all and it certainly isn't hate speech. Never heard such nonsense.

All the things people are saying it 'mean' or 'implies', as far as I can see this is all in your heads.

Saladdays66

Cis= ladybrain to match your ladybody. (Same side)
Trans=ladybrain doesnt match manbody (opposite side)

It requires you to

1. accept the existence of ladybrains
2. Accept you have one too
3. Accept that most people with ladybodies have one
4. Accept that some manbodies have one
5. Accept that ladybrain/ladybody people are much luckier than ladybrain/manbody people

All the things people are saying it 'mean' or 'implies', as far as I can see this is all in your heads.

So it's fine for people to force a gender identity on me but it is literal violence if I do the same to others?

Gender identity is all in people's heads by it's very nature.