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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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ReluctantCamper · 13/02/2018 09:16

Have seen two totally irrelevant threads on the board. Both regarding babies. I wonder if someone is trying to remind us of our proper function. The only purpose I can think of is to drive 'proper ' threads down the board. I have reported the threads suggesting that they are moved to chat but not commented as I don't want to bump them. Suggest this might be a good way to deal if we get lots of these.

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BarrackerBarmer · 13/02/2018 12:32

Take it up with carrier, then rat, because we already know our stance, we know carrier is utterly misrepresenting us, and your posts to carrier aren't challenging that at all. Not to mention your little dig there that "in your mind" there is a backdrop of posters not liking transpeople.

Let's be clear - what is 'in your mind' is not a reflection of reality, nor is it a fair representation of the objective observable truth on these boards. Which is a perfect metaphor for the entire "transwomen are women" stance.

I actually think you are disingenuous now, and I'm not sure you post in good faith.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 12:38

"When people tell you who they are, believe them."

She wasn't wrong.

RatRolyPoly · 13/02/2018 12:38

It was a concession, not a dig Barracker; i I'm confident in my (often questioned, often evidenced) integrity but your misrepresentation of me on this one means I'm no longer sure about yours.

RatRolyPoly · 13/02/2018 12:40

Barracker that post was to Mach, not carrier? I think you may have misunderstood, but I won't try and make you change your mind.

ReluctantCamper · 13/02/2018 12:40

Baracker I wish I had your eloquence

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carrierwaveonly · 13/02/2018 12:48

RatRolyPoly. I agree it is sad. I tend to take name calling for what it is and let it roll off me, however i do take your point about it being part of a wider picture.

Its hard to know how much of anything that is written on these boards as genuine sentiment, for all we know all the anti-trans posts could be coming from a St Petersberg troll farm. I guess we'll never know.

History has proven time and time again that the middle ground if often the way forward. There is surely some common ground to be found in the venn diagram of womanhood?

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 13/02/2018 12:49

I wasn't worried about sharks. I was entranced. Perhaps I should have been though - I know there were sharks because I saw them when we were diving. Big 'uns too.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 12:53

There's a cartoon somewhere out there with a great white swimming up to a seal with the caption "I too am a cute and harmless harbor seal", or something like that. Damned if I can find the thing again though, maybe someone with better Google skills than me will.

I just missed one in a harbor once, got there and all the seals were up on the docks being very quiet. Asked a fisherman what was up, he said a juvenile had been swimming around so all the seals got out of the water.

(Analogies there too, nasty bigoted seals, how did they know the shark was going to bite them?)

LangCleg · 13/02/2018 12:59

It's the sealion tag team! New game!

How To Win At Passive Aggressive Waffle: a Word Salad Product

Rat's going for the inaugural title.#

UpstartCrow · 13/02/2018 13:01
carrierwaveonly · 13/02/2018 13:03

LangCleg yea yea. What have you done for anyone lately?

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 13:03

Well, she's made me laugh a lot!

UpstartCrow · 13/02/2018 13:04

At least she hasn't told anyone they're irrelevant and should give up their career.

coffeecork · 13/02/2018 13:12

for all we know all the anti-trans posts could be coming from a St Petersberg troll farm.

LOL. I don't think so. We all know enough gender critical people IRL to know that this isn't true.

LangCleg · 13/02/2018 13:15

What have you done for anyone lately?

I'm too GNC to obey my socialisation and do anything for anyone else, ever. OBVIOUSLY. Duh.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 13/02/2018 13:19

Sharks in the water. Farewell and adieu to you ...

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 13:19

Can it be the St Petersberg that's in Florida? It's a bit boring there and full of crazy people with guns, but at least it's warm and there are fresh oranges.

QuentinSummers · 13/02/2018 13:19

"the venn diagram of womanhood?"
This sounds ace. Can you share a pic? I've yet to see a definition of womanhood that includes all women in trans women, and excludes all men inc trans men.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 13/02/2018 13:21

Always quite fancied St Petersburgh

OlennasWimple · 13/02/2018 13:25

There is surely some common ground to be found in the venn diagram of womanhood?

What is this purported "Venn diagram of womanhood"? A Venn diagram of the sexes would have two separate circles that barely touch (intersex conditions affecting less than 1% of the population). The one labelled "woman" would be slightly bigger than the one labelled "man" (we are 52% of the world's population)

ReluctantCamper · 13/02/2018 13:33

I am rather regretting starting this thread now as actually I think the most constructive approach to the threads we've seen today is to engage every time. The brilliant arguments that are put forward cannot fail to influence lurking readers. However I know it's exhausting and I rarely do it because I'm just not eloquent enough. I just nod along with the magnificent women that do post.

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 13/02/2018 13:36

I think it's a good idea to remind lurkers that are are trolled and sealioned a lot on this board and in the main, posters are patient and polite.

But it's worth the trollers knowing that we see them

stoneagefertilitydoll · 13/02/2018 13:36

History has proven time and time again that the middle ground if often the way forward. There is surely some common ground to be found in the venn diagram of womanhood?

Can you describe this diagram? Tell me what attributes belong in each of the little circles such that I (traditionally thought of as a woman) am in one which intersects with transwomen, but my sons and male partner aren't in that intersection?

Basically, I'm a programmer. My world is consists of me defining things for a living. I know, that if someone asks me to write a report, I need to be able to define exactly what they want in that report, because 'fuzzy' just doesn't exist. I am looking for a definition of woman that makes transwomen are women == true, with some justification other than 'because I say so'

I can define female and woman as I see them if it helps.

Personally, I'd be happy to hand femininity over to the transwomen if they want it so much, but I know that most women are more feminine than me, and quite like wearing dresses and lipstick occasionally, so since I don't feel strongly either way myself, I say lets share that. Anyone can be feminine. Woman is a matter of biology though. If DP and I bump uglies, only one of us could ever get pregnant, and it will always be me. That's why I'm a woman, and he's a man.

NaiceBiscuits · 13/02/2018 13:39

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ReluctantCamper · 13/02/2018 13:41

@carrierwaveonly you have gone very quiet. I assume you're sketching out this Venn diagram that's going to make it all clear?

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