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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour against transphobia group - thread 2

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QuentinSummers · 24/01/2018 21:14

Follow on from
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3144285-Labour-Against-Transphobia-Facebook-group?msgid=75082467#75082467

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ChemistryGeek · 25/01/2018 21:53

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KissMaCis · 25/01/2018 21:55

More Jack Reach Around.

RedToothBrush · 25/01/2018 21:56

Little OJ to play Jack Reacher

'Little OJ' is 6'5".
What do you mean he's only 5'7"?
He is 6'5". Believe it or you are fair game.

KissMaCis · 25/01/2018 22:08

😂😂😂 busting a gut Toothbrush. Just brilliant.

Lostmyemailaddress · 25/01/2018 22:11

Can I ask a quick and probably stupid question about the go fund me please? How long will it run for ?

QuentinSummers · 25/01/2018 22:13

Actually Twitter/genderology is great.
" Trans people exist but I don't have to believe in genderology. Scientologists exist but I don't have to believe in Dianetics"
Great stuff.

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BeyondWitchbitchterf · 25/01/2018 22:31

"Except one has Tom Cruise and the other has Owen Jones"

Is there an (as yet unresearched) link here between short men and misogynistic cults...?

RedToothBrush · 25/01/2018 22:40

Not one for short men and misogynistic cults but I give you exhibit A and exhibit B to ponder over

EXHIBIT A From 2014
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/10603195/Short-man-syndrome-really-does-exist-Oxford-University-finds.html
Short man syndrome really does exist, Oxford University finds

The experience of being shorter increased reports of negative feelings, such as being incompetent, dislikeable or inferior.

It also heightened levels of mistrust, fear and paranoia. Height-reduced participants were more likely to think someone else in the virtual train carriage was deliberately staring, thinking badly about them, or trying to cause distress.

EXHIBIT B From 2015
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11821572/Small-man-syndrome-really-does-exist-US-government-researchers-conclude.html
Small man syndrome really does exist, US government researchers conclude

Men who feel the least masculine are nearly three times more likely to commit violent acts compared with those who are comfortable in their own skin

Small man syndrome really does exist, US government scientists have found, after research showed men who feel the least masculine are at risk of committing violent acts.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 25/01/2018 22:43

Gofundme lasts indefinitely. I still cant donate so will donate straight to the women's place bank account this weekend.,

AreYouOrHaveYouEverBeenATERF · 25/01/2018 22:58

Notice anything about the twats tweeting 'bye bye' memes under Jennifer's tweet?

I'd say 90% men. At least. We are still being controlled, kept down, kept out of power and bullied by MEN. And now the whole Labour party are complicit in this.

Lostmyemailaddress · 25/01/2018 23:02

Thank you @TellsEveryoneRealFacts I donated earlier but will donate next week as well. The one thing I don't get with Labour is I have a nearly 15 year old ds he came out as gay last year and there has been talk about the trans movement within his friendship group. We have spoken about it with each other and he gets that the reality is women are a biological fact and that trans women are trans women. We watched the start if cbb this year and it was for the first time in ages and when IW stated that drag queens appropriated trans women he asked well isn't that what trans women are doing to women. I really can't understand how a not yet 15 year old teenage boy can see through it but Labour refuse to.

bombadino · 25/01/2018 23:04

Jennifer!

Two Flames‏ @msjenniferjames

I've been suspended from the Labour party for saying women don't have dicks. 😳

Unbelievable!

SmurfOrTerf · 25/01/2018 23:11

Hmm - sometimes we just don't notice things. When I nc'd I saw that MN ask what gender you are.
Discussing this thread with DH and I said how come the LP has never had a woman leader, he said they will - and she will have a Dick.

Gileswithachainsaw · 25/01/2018 23:13

Oh ffs Angry

It's like being suspended for saying grass is green.

thebewilderness · 25/01/2018 23:57

They are mandating a belief that no one actually believes and using the refusal to submit it as an excuse to purge women from a political party.
That puts to rest any doubt people had that trans advocacy would be a widespread effort to drive women from the public sphere.

HerFemaleness · 26/01/2018 00:18

Infowars :/ It might be true, it also might not be true.

Butterymuffin · 26/01/2018 00:28

Hard to believe anyone would get fired on the spot from the DWP. Suspended pending a disciplinary, maybe. Think the folk at Prison Planet have forgotten we don't (quite, yet) have US style employment law here for public sector jobs.

AreYouOrHaveYouEverBeenATERF · 26/01/2018 00:29

Paul Joseph Watson makes me laugh - he's sooooo serious. And misguided.

I'll never forget this - Hello Darkness My Old Friend

Even he can't take all of Alex Jones wackjob conspiracies seriously.

pamish · 26/01/2018 00:56

@Terfinater, having looked at the infowars page and the comments, I v. much doubt its true. And see that cartoon? And a pageful of mostly quite mad comments. No-one gets sacked on the spot for a fb post.

CAAKE · 26/01/2018 01:00

Tweets and an image here from Pilgrim Tucker and Vauxhall CLP.

Pilgrim writes "Well looks like my CLP just voted that anyone who wants to discuss whether a transwoman is "unquestionably" a woman is transphobic. Looked like 4/5 against, 60+ for, the rest abstained."

Apparently (reading around the tweets) the invited speaker who addressed the meeting was a transwoman and very little other discussion occurred.

twitter.com/pilgrimtucker/status/956650119276978176

twitter.com/vauxhalllabour/status/956649034755821569

Labour against transphobia group - thread 2
pamish · 26/01/2018 01:37

Pilgrim had asked for a secret vote and it was refused.

And she got messages after the meeting from people who said they felt they had to vote pro-trans.

But it looks as if the CLP statement says nothing about self ID. This is what we need to keep emphasising - Trans can be what they like, but self ID'd as legally women is the problem.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/01/2018 07:50

Pilgrim had asked for a secret vote and it was refused

That's shit

KissMaCis · 26/01/2018 09:01

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lefts-transgender-obsession-no-laughing-matter/

Morning, here’s Karen’s piece.

AngryAttackKittens · 26/01/2018 09:09

It's pretty much impossible for the revised GRA Miller proposed to get through the Commons without Conservatives voting for it, right?

And that's why I'm delighted that media aimed at conservative voters is covering this. Would be great if the left would follow suit but at this point I think it will take either a whole lot of people getting hurt or a crushing electoral defeat for Labour to backtrack.

(Lifelong lefty here, getting really tired of watching the Labour party throw women under the bus.)