Labour against transphobia group - thread 2

[QuentinSummers]

Follow on from
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3144285-Labour-Against-Transphobia-Facebook-group?msgid=75082467#75082467

Okay. You guys know I’m a Blairite. I’ll just sit in the corner and eat some babies. 😂 Respectfully notes and yes, let’s not get dragged on tangents.

Ever considered standing as independents instead of protest votes? Time is right for a new centrist party.

If anyone with insider information wanted to share more about the Haringey situation I would be very interested.

I'm at the point id consider it, if there were a new centre party. As an independent, no. Its so much work to stand. With no support, its a waste of time.

I think it's important for people who would normally vote labour to continue to do so. Please don't let them win on this, we can't let them push people out of the party and turn it into an anti feminist echo chamber.

Absolutely no chance of me voting Labour whilst all of this nonsense is going on. The first thing they would do is bring in self-ID. Give the Tories their dues, they did postpone it once concerns were brought to their attention, Labour would not consider this at all.

If Labour win the next election, THAT is letting 'them' win. Them being rabid transactivists and deluded 'transgender' penis people.

As a disabled person I could never vote Tory, and I do feel a bit like by not voting at all its letting the Tories back in, but I cannot vote for Labour in its current state.

I've been following since thread 1 but didn't post, so clocking in on this one following a name change (I was surprised this name was still available )

Yes Onthelist, I feel the same. Although if voting Tory stopped self-identifying becoming law I would seriously consider it. If it came in, that's a huge rights blow to around 50% of members of every vulnerable group. It would also be very very hard to reverse. This vs 4 years of Tories until another guaranteed general election. I would have to seriously consider going blue for that one.

Name-changed. Surprised this hadn't been snaffled.

Name changed. It felt like a 'pressing' urgency....

Ever considered standing as independents instead of protest votes? Time is right for a new centrist party.

I would vote for current Labour MP if she stood as an independent. She does a decent job and doesn’t always toe the party line.

Delurking to say I have just checked Twitter and Jennifer James has been suspended from the Labour Party.

Have very recently peak-transed thanks to you lot and this whole fucked up business has me sickened. They really don't give a fuck about women do they? Beyond awful

Wtf TheNevevarine?

That is appalling.

How can we support her? I hope she sues them so hard their teeth rattle

This is going to get much worse, I have this on good authority.

This is going to get much worse

For who?

Poor Jennifer. Anyone on twitter to message support? Actually didnt someone post her email address recently or did i dream that? Nc btw.

Where the centre of gravity of every party now stands is NOT fixed at all. They are moving more than they have in a long time.

I agree. So much is in flux at the moment. Brexit of course. And wherever you stand on public spending, it's becoming clear that the way the Tories have gone about it is not working - no money has been saved because all the cuts in particular departments have just shifted to other department budgets. So all departments are in crisis at the same time. There's been a lot of spending a pound to save a penny.

I think there is a lot to play for before we arrive at a new political consensus for the Tories to go slightly one side of and Labour slightly the other side. Transgender issues might seem niche but given the context of shifting sands, political parties need to be shown which are the lines in the sand for which demographics. And I think they will take notice.

Noooo! Poor Jennifer james... bastards! Off to twitter...

Think this:

mobile.twitter.com/sambailey1976/status/956607385396707329

is an excellent idea.

Well this is bizarre. Perhaps they are hoping that suspending the Women makes them ineligible for standing on the AWS and therefore no discrimination case possible as it needs a named individual.
I hope there are other women prepared to take this forward within the party.

Sounds good but wont the money be needed for the AWS fight. Maybe enough to do both?

Karen Ingala Smith has donated to the go fund me. I love that woman.

I'm definitely going to donate again after payday.

4000 antisemitism hate speech cases still not dealt with. Women countering and debating a post modern theory, that negates science, they jump up like jack out his box. Shameful.