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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour against transphobia group - thread 2

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QuentinSummers · 24/01/2018 21:14

Follow on from
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3144285-Labour-Against-Transphobia-Facebook-group?msgid=75082467#75082467

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CAAKE · 03/02/2018 16:32

Our friend LM is at the London Young Labour AGM today. I thought that you all might like a little giggle at this most excellent joke, posted on a thread that LM has retweeted -

Labour against transphobia group - thread 2
Labour against transphobia group - thread 2
AreYouOrHaveYouEverBeenATERF · 03/02/2018 16:34
Grin
pamish · 03/02/2018 16:44

I think this sticker sheet is being commercially produced. It was thrust at me as I registered for the academic conference, Lesbian Lives, last year.

Lazylouse · 03/02/2018 16:51

Surely something has gone badly wrong if each person has to announce the pronouns they want used? I'd be tempted to put "guess".

pamish · 03/02/2018 16:54

@Lazy, no, this is important. getting a pronoun wrong is literally killing people. Think of the cost to the NHS.

thebewilderness · 03/02/2018 16:57

This is what happens when people can't figure out the difference between their sex, their gender, and their personality.

boatyardblues · 03/02/2018 17:36

@Lazy, no, this is important. getting a pronoun wrong is literally killing people. Think of the cost to the NHS.

Alternatively, a really quick way to clear bed-blocked wards....

DickTERFin · 03/02/2018 17:58

I'd be tempted to write a Daenerys Targaryen style, pronoun list...

DickTERFin, First of her name, Breaker of wind, Queen of Turnips and the first potato's of the season, Slayer of wasps (only the ones that have already been fatally wounded and upside down on the window sill though), the Unwashed, Mother of Dragon liking children, also known as just "children".

And then pitch a fit when people don't remember or recite the whole lot.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 03/02/2018 20:17

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Battleax · 03/02/2018 20:20

The comments beneath it are cheering too.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 03/02/2018 20:24

Got paid few days back - time to return to the gofund me page!

HairyBallTheorem · 03/02/2018 20:27

Janice Turner is a towering force at the moment - I love her. (And on the left, Sarah Ditum's latest article in New Statesman is brilliant).

OlennasWimple · 03/02/2018 20:36

CAAKE - I was just about to post that name stickers tweet too! How tiresome, how depressing, that this is going on

When did LM become a Young Labour Ambassador? Yet another job to fit in...

Cwenthryth · 03/02/2018 21:04

These positions (CLP women’s officer, young labour ambassador etc) are all voluntary, right? What does LM actually, y’know, do? To pay rent and buy food?

OnTheList · 03/02/2018 21:10

DickTERFin, First of her name, Breaker of wind, Queen of Turnips and the first potato's of the season, Slayer of wasps (only the ones that have already been fatally wounded and upside down on the window sill though), the Unwashed, Mother of Dragon liking children, also known as just "children".

Grin

I would probably g for her blobbyness or something. And watch people try to say that over and over with a straight face. Or put 'it' then pitch a fit and say that the T at the start has worn off and it is literal violence to call me it.

OlennasWimple · 03/02/2018 21:21

What does LM actually, y’know, do? To pay rent and buy food?

Put the GoFundMe begging bowl out never mind the deadnaming

Presumably as a full-time student (!) LM can get the usual financial support package too.

pamish · 03/02/2018 22:20

That horrible meme about Lily and a knife? Someone did a bit of digging:
twitter.com/confirmedturf/status/959678054271393793
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HerFemaleness · 03/02/2018 22:25

Going back to using race as a means of justifying the 'transwomen are women' argument you talked about yesterday. A lass I know told me that this came up today in her CLP meeting. They were specifically talking about transwomen on all women short lists and basically the argument was ''transwomen are women in the same way that black women are women''.

thebewilderness · 03/02/2018 22:29

They are actually claiming that black women are men? That is one of the oldest cruelest insults men traditionally level at Black women. I assume they were in an all white group or at the least there were no Black women there to hear they are men.

HerFemaleness · 03/02/2018 22:36

At the very least claiming that black women are as biologically distinct from all other women, as men are to women.

pamish · 03/02/2018 22:41

I heard a third woman has been suspended. Anyone know more?

HerFemaleness · 03/02/2018 22:54

Where did you hear it from? I know nothing.

pamish · 03/02/2018 23:00

Pilgrim Tucker‏ @PilgrimTucker

Fuck - just hearing 3rd woman has been suspended from Labour
1:50 PM - 3 Feb 2018

YesItsADebate · 03/02/2018 23:35

I am so sick of this. If you can’t beat them, join them. I am henceforth a man. I have told DP and will soon be seen at a pro-self ID protest. Where are those again?

againstvaw · 04/02/2018 02:38

@Her Femaleness Here is a YouTube video by David Page, MIT biology professor and Director of the Whitehead Institute. He worked on the human genome project. He says that women of all races have 99.9% of theire DNA in common. Men and women have 98.5% of DNA in common. So there's absolutely no basis for the racist claims of TA.