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AIBU GoFundMe addiction

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DistaffSide · 13/01/2018 12:29

I've recently become addicted to a Gofundme campaign. Every time I press refresh the total raised has jumped up and I don't seem to be able to stop.

I'm trying to stay within Mumsnet rules here, so obviously I can't link or promote it.

Does anyone else have this enjoyable problem?

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LadyScience · 13/01/2018 22:30

Just said on the other thread, donated. It’s over 6.7k now.

Relieved to be able to do something to support, even if small compared to the inspiring women starting the campaign.

MrSlant · 13/01/2018 22:39

I do think that donating in the name of Liam Madigan is harsh and will lead to distracting calls of bullying though. No matter how badly treated we feel by Lily and her twitter feed and Labour in general, in the spirit of the gofundme page we are sponsoring it seems best to be respectful to honour her desire as a trans woman to be Lily even if she doesn't honour the women who wish to keep the rights we have fought to keep for our sex. We need to be the grown-ups here so to speak.

Whilst I want to keep my right to be a woman through the nature of my birth (and be grubby and wear boots and coach football and still be a woman) I fully support anyone who suffers discrimination because they are trans or LGB as well.

Sorry, I'm not very good at attempting to be mature, hope this makes sense!

Thehairthebod · 13/01/2018 22:44

We need to be the grown-ups here so to speak.

Yes I agree.

MiMi78 · 13/01/2018 22:51

People on Twitter who are against it, notably a shitload of Guardian journalists, are inadvertently helping it to reach more people.
I've seen a few pisstaking thanks for bringing it to my attention, il donate tweets.

Redonionricedpotato · 13/01/2018 22:59

Jeremy Corbyn has just donated 😂

Icantreachthepretzels · 13/01/2018 23:10

I was just coming to post that! so close to £7000!

I'm not fussed for honouring people's wishes who don't honour 50% of the population tbh. Taking the high road might allow for a warm glow of moral superiority, but it isn't getting us fuck all else.

GuardianLions · 13/01/2018 23:24

Less than 50 quid to get to 7 grand!

NotTerfNorCis · 13/01/2018 23:31

£7,003 of £10,000 goal!!!

GuardianLions · 13/01/2018 23:32

£7003 night night!

Boyslikepinkgirlslikeblue · 13/01/2018 23:36

I will donate when I get paid. Ahhhh it's so sad to see how many females are against this! I think too many people trust the government with their rights, as if "women's rights were fought for, we will always have them" NO, THEY ARE NOT SAFE!

BeeInMyBonnet1985 · 13/01/2018 23:37

Watching that counter go past the £7,000 mark was so satisfying I think I need a cigarette! Shame about the sudden influx of concern trolling and outright abuse on the comments though. The trans activists and their allies are maaaaad.

Imstickingwiththisone · 13/01/2018 23:55

Has anyone seen the author's Twitter feed? I thought her gofundme page was well put but she's resorted to 'because women don't have dicks' as retorts on twitter. I facepalmed.

I think for people to see that this isn't a bigoted attempt to oppress a minority then we have to appear level headed and fair, just as the gofundme page is.

MrSlant · 13/01/2018 23:55

Icantreach I don't want to honour peoples wishes to get a warm glow, I want to honour people's wishes for two reasons a) I know an astonishingly strong young woman who didn't start out life as a woman (I have known and loved her for 15 years boy and woman) and I think that she and other trans women need support, Lily and her gang make it so much harder for her and b) being spiteful dilutes the argument for our side of the cause. There is no need to be unkind, ever.

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DistaffSide · 13/01/2018 23:57

£7,048! I'm wondering if the peak trans network has been hit today and the donations will begin to tail off, or if it's just going to keep on building.

Good night everyone, thanks to you all for keeping the thread going.

Watching that counter go past the £7,000 mark was so satisfying I think I need a cigarette

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ReefAndRiz · 13/01/2018 23:58

Have Shona and her disproving friends started a refuge GoFundMe campaign?

GuardianLions · 14/01/2018 00:01

I don't know why it is spiteful to say women don't have dicks. A bit crude maybe, but spiteful no.

I actually find it quite inspirational because it makes me realise you can have a role in public life as a woman but don't have to be ladylike and perfect first

BeeInMyBonnet1985 · 14/01/2018 00:09

I have to agree that I don't find anything wrong with saying 'because women don't have dicks'. Is it blunt? Yes. But it isn't incorrect, and it certainly isn't bigotry to make the point that it is biology that excludes transwomen from the category of 'female' and not individual women. I think women have generally been polite and sympathetic on this issue for a long time, and pulling out punches has only seen us losing more and more ground. I have no qualms about being blunt so long as it can be backed up with a well reasoned argument, and Jennifer is more than capable of defending her opinions.

MiMi78 · 14/01/2018 00:16

While I do struggle with not wanting to offend trans women out there who just want to live a peaceful life.
I would have no issue in sharing my spaces etc with a trans woman with a GRC, or the Miranda Yardleys of the world.
But I think the 'women don't have dicks' comment gets to the point.
It's factual.

Vicxy · 14/01/2018 00:25

I can totally understand 'resorting' to 'women dont have dicks' in twitter arguments. Its honestly like banging your head on a brick wall, and once one faith-based arguer finishes another leaps into take their place and say exactly the same things. And the author has ben getting this for months and months now. Unfortunately human beings do not generally have unlimited amounts of patience. And sometimes things need to be stated bluntly, else what you say is twisted beyond all recognition. You cannot twist such a statement as 'women do not have dicks' no matter how hard you try.

Vicxy · 14/01/2018 00:27

It should also probably be noted that I expect the author has had a LOT of private messages on the topic, many filled with the most disgusting threats imaginable. I average a few rape and death threats a month and I am barely even active on there. That kind of behaviour..also makes one lose patience with the transactivist cult (shoutout to the allys though, they also send out threats)

FundayMorning · 14/01/2018 00:34

Justine Greening has chipped in now

AnotherQuoll · 14/01/2018 00:35

It's not just said randomly, out of nowhere , as a spontaneous attempt to be cruel to transsexuals . Just like my saying "Lesbians don't like dick", it's said in response to being pushed into a corner, having my rights taken, yet again, by greedy, misogynistic, straight men, this time claiming to be us, which in itself is goady af. Fuck 'em. Too many inches, too many miles. I'm having my inch back and I'm done saying please.

Icantreachthepretzels · 14/01/2018 00:57

MrSlant I appreciate that you have a personal investment in giving people their preferred pronouns and names.

Lily Madigan is a horrible person who actively harms women. I have no interest in being kind to them.

I agree we ^should* always take the high road - doesn't stop it from being funny when someone takes the low one to the detriment of an utter ballbag.

Alwaysinmyheart · 14/01/2018 01:27

Please can someone be kind and PM me as to what this is all about...? So confused! 😀

GuardianLions · 14/01/2018 01:31

just pmed you always

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