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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

ITV Transformation Street

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RedToothBrush · 11/01/2018 17:29

On tv tonight.

But here's an article to give you a taste of what its going to be like:www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/transformation-street-itv-transgender-documentary-a3737876.html

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48harv · 26/01/2018 21:34

I have written 3 letters to Abdel Fattah el-Sisi And 2facebook pleas and it looks like Laura Plummer May be released by presidential pardon, I am not claiming credit if this is the case but I will be so happy if she comes home.

Italiangreyhound · 26/01/2018 21:40

I liked Kim. The American.

I wanted to know more about thr only trans man really featured, Lucas. Lucas seemed lovely. The trailer was so misleading. It looked like Lucas had met someone.

I did not the idea you marry someone, get them pregnant and then say you want to be a woman.

Sing was annoyingly. My penis doesn't make me any less a woman, but of course it does.

48harv · 26/01/2018 21:45

Beta blockers have side affects if taken to early as they affect the growth of the penis and therefore restrict the available depth of a vaginaplasty. But the blockers do help with stopping male puberty and in conjunction with hormones can feminise the body and prevent hair growth on the face and body., the one thing going for theblockers is that if stopped the original gender will reclaim the host body. In time but there would be some damage to the male genitalia and possibly impotence.

48harv · 26/01/2018 21:46

Couldn’t agree more but like I said it’s all in the eye of the beholder

48harv · 26/01/2018 21:53

I think that that was deceitful true trans people have known all their lives so to marry and have children is “ a poor life choice “ to give all that hurt to someone who trusts you , especially so soon after marrying the woman is wrong and cowardly.

48harv · 26/01/2018 22:17

If I can say one thing

I pleaded, begged, bargained, employed every angle to persuade my God to put right the “joke” or the “injustice” he had perpetrated upon me, I was even tempted to sell my soul to the devil if I could have been put right ( I bottled on that one )
I asked my God what I had done in a past life that was so heinous that he would abuse me so. I do believe in God and his silence distressed me for many many years.

48harv · 26/01/2018 22:34

I do accept now something which when I joined this forum was an illusion, I CAN NEVER BE a biological woman ,
I never was
I can never be.
This has been a hard lesson to learn and learning it has been painful, but I do accept that to claim otherwise is only deceiving myself.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 26/01/2018 22:36

harv

Thanks

I dont know what to say...im sorry

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 26/01/2018 22:38

If you were here i would give you a hug

But that is such an unmumsnetty (and to be fair unrufus) thing to do that i think i would be kicked off the fourm

SO DONT TELL ANYONE

QuentinSummers · 26/01/2018 22:54

harv Flowers
You are you. Whether you have a vagina or a penis is only plumbing, it means nothing really. You are valuable and worthwhile as you are.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 26/01/2018 22:55

Oh there we go

What Quentin said

48harv · 26/01/2018 23:12

I am very touchy feely, all my clients get a huge from me when I arrive and when I go, I love them all❤️

And I would love to meet every one of you and I am glad we have chatted on this tricky subject

God bless you all💖

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 26/01/2018 23:13

You take care of yourself harv

Wine
48harv · 26/01/2018 23:13

That’s hug not huge, predictive text again 🤪

48harv · 26/01/2018 23:15

Isn’t it good news about Laura, I hope it’s true, I really do

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 26/01/2018 23:18

It certainly siunds true

Hopefully she wont be that daft again

48harv · 26/01/2018 23:25

She certainly mucked it all up, As I read it she had known this man since 2014 had gotten married into a marriage that isn’t recognised by Egypt, she didn’t know the guys full name nor his right address, she failed to check that the pills were legal in Egypt, then when caught she said yes to the wrong question by poor council and exhaustion,
One hell of a catalogue of mistakes

But she didn’t deserve harsh jail time ...... that’s the sad part

48harv · 26/01/2018 23:31

Goodnight to you all and thank you

Italiangreyhound · 27/01/2018 00:11

@48harv
"I do accept now something which when I joined this forum was an illusion, I CAN NEVER BE a biological woman ,
I never was
I can never be.
This has been a hard lesson to learn and learning it has been painful, but I do accept that to claim otherwise is only deceiving myself."

Sweetie, do you know something which for me is very true in all this. It is when people are at their least demanding, in being seen as this or that, and are just themselves, that I am most likely to see them as they see themselves.

Also as a fellow Christian I believe biological sex and any notions of gender are for this life only. Luke 20:34-36 New International Version says we will not be concerned with marriage, we will be like the angels, so for me that means not concerned with biological sex, and so these struggles are for this life only. XX Thanks

48harv · 27/01/2018 10:24

Dear Italiangreyhound you are one fantastic human being , you have my deepest respect and admiration😍🌹💐

QuentinSummers · 27/01/2018 10:32

italian that's such a lovely post x

48harv · 27/01/2018 10:34

Dear Italiangreyhound I agree with what you say about the soul being genderless, the body is a vessel for this lifespan only. That was how I was able to rejoin my Church after 50 years apart, it was not a fear of reaching my twilight years that spurred me to, it was the feeling I was lost drifting aimlessly without land in sight. When I went and spoke to my Priest we had a lengthy discussion, the churches opinions have moved on a lot since my teens when I couldn’t talk to my church.

Italiangreyhound · 27/01/2018 10:50

The church is graplinh with all this. Sadly is this had not become such a battle field I would be much more on the forefront of this issue church wise on behalf of trans people but some church-related trans inclusive organisations are actually very militant. So not for me.

Italiangreyhound · 27/01/2018 10:51

grappling

waterlego6064 · 27/01/2018 11:05

FantasticMiss I agree re Jordan on the show. They were a ‘ladydick’ type.

There was also a transwoman who wasn’t one of the featured people of the documentary, but who was shown chatting in the waiting room a couple of times. She was talking to some pre-op transwomen about getting their new vaginas, and how they’ll be able to wear ‘skimpy panties’. More than a touch of AGP with that one, I thought!