ITV Transformation Street

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On tv tonight.

But here's an article to give you a taste of what its going to be like:www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/transformation-street-itv-transgender-documentary-a3737876.html

Not a problem

Im watching pride on Netflix

The music takes me back to my youth

Yesterday then🤪

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Sorry got to go ... bath time...."🛀

Have a good one harv

Thanks for the chat Rufusetherenegaderaindeeer night 😁

Is it on again today. Will anyone by watching?

On now. Im watching. That surgeon gives me the creeps

That surgeon has definitely a god complex. And the bollocks he spouts, "it just gives that little edge of feeling feminine" (giving someone boobs)

Im a woman and iv got a penis and im not any less of a woman for having one one of the patients says
Oh dear dear. I despair.

and the poor mums... I wonder if they do really accept as they say or are they just putting a brave face on ?

I think it shows the massive advantage of having surgery earlier - most of the older people couldn't possibly pass for female - but with the younger ones there's always that problem of making a decision you'd regret.

Has there ever been a programme about/research into people regretting surgery?

I dont know abour tv programme but on transgendertrend there are detransitioning stories. As for reseach, there is a prof who is an expert in trans who was prevented from doing research by his uni as they were afraid it was not politically correct. Sorry cant remember his name but there is a thread about it on here.

His name's James Caspian. He's trying to raise funds so he can challenge Bath Spa University
www.crowdjustice.com/case/uphold-freedom-of-speech-in-our-universities/

I felt the programme missed a lot out, I wanted to hear the thinking and the journey of the patients.

I got sick of shots of artificial tits and surgery.

I felt there was more to talk about.

I also felt it was a shame they only featured one trans man. Luke or whatever he was called in the first episode was probably the one I was really interested in. Although I did like Kim and her story.

I wonder with the guy telling his wives after a couple of years of marriage and a new baby, maybe he felt marriage and a baby would make it all go away. It felt very sad for his wife.

I think it shows the massive advantage of having surgery earlier - most of the older people couldn't possibly pass for female - but with the younger ones there's always that problem of making a decision you'd regret

That’s the catch - for those who really are so dysphoric that this is their best option then puberty blockers and hormones would stop the “maleness” and help them pass through life without the stares, abuse etc. But with the onslaught of kids now seekibg help - how do you safeguard it properly yo get it right.

Absolutely right bambam

As technology gets better there might be things that can be just as effective a bit later on in the transition

But that will never happen if money is being made from younger people

What struck me from last nights show was that there are so many different feelings and individuals, with different motivations and to lump them all together under the 'trans' umbrella seems unhelpful and ridiculous.

Agree that surgeon is deeply disturbing.

I don't see how the (I thought very sensible) individual toward the end said 'I know I'm not ever going to pass as a woman but I feel better looking like this, it's the best I can do' I thought that was realistic, honest and frank. What I could not abide was the trans woman who was a singer, stating that keeping and using a penis 'didn't make her any less of a woman' Well I agree in one way, even if you did remove it you would still be 100% male (so, a man) I wonder how long it is until she knocks up her girlfriend with her 'female organ' 🤔

I swear that if I see the sentence "she got her girlfriend/wife pregnant" in a newspaper I'm going to burn the damn thing.

Angryattackkittens - I'll add to the pyre 😡 the very act of impregnating proves maleness beyond any doubt whatsoever. You can't be 'dysphoric' and still want to function sexually and biologically as a male. IMHO that particular individual was a straight man who likes wearing women's clothing and presenting in a stereotypically female way and enjoyed having tits to play with. The very definition of AGP and totally different to so many of the other trans women on the show.

The very definition of AGP and totally different to so many of the other trans women on the show
My thoughts exactly.

I know I may come across as a bit thick but I could not really get my head around what was going on with the singer. When they were stood in the dress shop I was thinking, "She is a man who thinks she is a woman who is in love with another woman but she wants to stay as a man." The world's gone mad.

I know what you mean mrswhiplington
I was wondering about the girlfriend .Would have liked her pov.

Couldn't believe how much money they spend on it as well. What saddens me is when they are married with children and yet still want to spend £££s on themselves, to make themselves feel better.

Another PP posted on another thread that "he is just having a love affair with himself." Sums it up really.

Hi everybody I to watched the final episode on Thursday, as with any section in society there are many different facets in the mix,
Myself I would have taken the surgery at 13 and been grateful for it,I hated my diddly, wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole, as you know I did try having girlfriends for appearances and my parents, and they were all really nice girls and women, the longest girl I knew was just under 2 years, she said to Me I was great company and if I was a girl we could be best friends but as a bloke I didn’t quite cut it.
i can swear categorically that I have not doubted my decision for 1 millisecond, I did feel sorry for some of them as they could never be feminine and will always be at risk of abuse,
I was as guilty as most trans women they look in the mirror and through “rose tinted glasses” would see the image they wanted to see,
“ mirror mirror on the wall who’s the fairest of us all”, and the mirror would enforce the perception that the beauty staring back was them.,
Narsasistic complex yes possibly, but when you are crying out for validation you clutch at straws,