Labour party invents new bollocks made-up non-existent definition for woman

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labour.org.uk/members/get-involved/national-youth-elections-2018/

Sixteen uses of the word 'self-defining woman'. Zero uses of 'female', 'biology', or plain 'woman'.

'Woman' is now literally meaningless. A woman can be a bog-standard heterosexual teenage male (Lily Madigan), if he says so.

And obviously with half the places reserved for 'self-defining women' (not 'women', 'self-defining women'), then there's not really any reason why men wouldn't define themselves a women, is there?

If misogynistic shits like Lily Madigan can 'self-define as a woman', well ALL men are women, aren't they?

The whole bloody human race is 'self-defined women'.

Stupid Labour.

Cage fighter = Fallon Fox. Very controversial figure.

It's also worth looking up Andraya Yearwood, who won two girls' state running championships - without having had any surgery or hormone treatment as far as I know.

Very interesting analysis pisacake, my ignorance of sport meant that I couldn't unpack that Wikipedia entry.

Sport is one domain where everyone (perhaps even a Labour Party member?!) can see that biology matters more than genderfeelz.

Jeez, I wouldn’t want to be a woman on the wrong end of Fallon Fox.

I think Laurel Hubbard is the peakiest of peak trans in sport. Millionaire 40-year-old man who gave up weightlifting as a student, suddenly wins silver at World Weightlifting Championships (and could have had gold if he hadn't thrown his winning lift). He competed at the veterans world championship and broke his female age group records by some ridiculous margin. He brings shame on his country

And yet TRAs insist he's female because he says he is. Wonder if he'll still be a 'woman' in ten years time when he's hung up his weights.

And yet TRAs insist he's female because he says he is.

He's never claimed to be a woman (to my knowledge). He has studiously avoided claiming to be a transwoman or transgender let alone woman.

he does have pink hairbands & pink trainers & a pony tail though.

@cromeyellow0 Bit confusing that. He says he has 'gender issues'? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallon_Fox

he just said 'the rules are there and as a rich entitled white male, well rules are there to be exploited, so here I am'

www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11955973

NotTerfNorCis Sorry we meant that Laurel Hubbard hasn't claimed to be transgender. Fallon Fox does, like most (all?) of the other TIMs in sports does claim to be transgender.

Laurel playing the victim card I see. Claiming to be 'hurt' and hoping people will be 'open-minded'.

His competitors aren't too sympathetic. Iuniarra Sipaia said that not only was it wrong to make her compete against a male, but she was drug tested and he wasn't, for some reason.

www.samoaobserver.ws/en/23_03_2017/local/18224/Woman-lifter-beaten-by-transgender-speaks-up.htm

@cromeyellow0 Sorry I got mixed up there! Doing several things at once.

? but laurel hubbard competes in the women's competition so it's irrelevant whether they say they are a woman or not, they are happy to take a place competing in the women's competition.

Iuniarra Sipaia has since been banned.

www.sobserver.ws/en/11_01_2018/sport/28709/Suspended-athlete-breaks-her-silence.htm
samoaobserver.ws/en/13_01_2018/editorial/28770/Could-Iuniarra-Sipaia%E2%80%99s-ban-be-a-conspiracy.htm

www.fightopinion.com/2013/03/15/joe-rogan-fallon-fox/

Here's Joe Rogan's view. A little more 'colourful' than usual opinions.

I’ve donated and reported that arsehole on twitter trying to get the fund pulled.

Hence women's sport is dead.
So, so fucked up.

The problem is that I don't think Labour willl have a problem with losing any of its membership. I think a lot of younger left wing feminists have now started to think in a different way to those who are older.

I follow a few of my DSs female friends on Twitter as they are witty, intelligent feminists. They are now at university and are very pro Trans, retweeting a lot of prominent Transwomen, and they would probably think this thread is transphobic.

Joe Rogan is funny on this

@raisinsraisins Wonder what they'd think of Laurel, Fallon and the rest. In a few years when more and more transwomen are winning women's sports events, will they care?

Encouraging letter; protest is worth it.
May help in this legal challenge.

raisinsraisins Yes, that's a huge problem for the Labour Party. It explains if it doesn't excuse why no Labour MP has expressed any qualms about self-identification.

Look at how many young British women are very comfortable with TIMs accessing refuges for women:

Raisins - sorry but they can't be terribly intelligent if they can't understand year 5 level biology.

Sorry Crome but you could have just made that up.

Where is this source from and is it reliable?