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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

A Spartacus letter re Jo Cox Leadership

301 replies

NettleTea · 01/12/2017 12:33

as many have expressed dismay at the events unfolding we are creating our response to the letter passed around. The letter will be available to share in a document with signatures including representatives of many of the women's groups pushing for consultation. If anybody wishes to have their name / position held added to the document please PM me. If you just wish to add your support, just comment here and keep it going.

In sisterhood

We are ordinary women, some of us Labour Party members, the rest of us potential Labour Party voters. We know that sexism and sexist messages received from birth mean we are less likely to push ourselves forward, to be listened to, to take the lead and have belief in our abilities, especially in a male-dominated sphere such as politics. Whatever our differences, this is an experience that unites women in society and is exactly why the Jo Cox Leadership programme is needed – to bolster self-esteem and confidence and work towards building a toolkit in preparation for political life.

The Labour Party and Labour Women’s Network, in association with the Jo Cox Foundation, have decided not to invoke Equality Act 2010 exemptions which would permit the Jo Cox Women in Leadership Programme to offer the programme to female participants only. We understand that graduates will feel a loyalty to the programme and its decisions. We hope they also feel a responsibility to reflect the diversity of women’s opinions in the party and wider society, and will use their leadership roles to ensure women are consulted about the things that affect us, whether Conservative Party proposals to review the Gender Recognition Act or Labour Party mechanisms to increase women's participation in political life.

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counterpoint · 03/12/2017 09:12

@ferntwist - "Counterpoint the Greens are no better, they’ve swallowed all the anti-science nonsense about gender and have redefined women as ‘non-men’."
I totally missed that one! If Labour have completely lost logic on this matter, what real alternatives are there? I can't see myself voting Tory; even their fox-hunting nature turns me cold.

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SparklyUnicornTractors · 03/12/2017 11:50

There currently isn't one single party that hasn't wholeheartedly leapt on this anti women and children bandwagon, or is prepared to even consider, never mind represent the biological politics that is reality for 51% of the voters in the UK.

There are about 3 lone MPs who have dared to put their head above the parapet and made sensible noises about this, and one of those is UKIP. There is no one to vote for. New party needed.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 03/12/2017 11:52

I agree. Trans-identifying males should be taking space from men. Not women.

juliascurr · 03/12/2017 13:20

yes, I agree

Labour and Momentum member

Mytholmroyd · 03/12/2017 13:25

I agree

SemperTemper · 03/12/2017 13:27

I agree

InLoveWithDavidTennant · 03/12/2017 15:00

I agree

L1lyvandermeer · 03/12/2017 16:06

I wholeheartedly agree

Bubbington · 03/12/2017 18:23

Totally agree, was thinking of voting Labour next time around, (would have been first time), not now, I feel we are being thrown under the bus...Will PM you

TheCunkOfPhilomena · 03/12/2017 18:35

Count me in, it's crucial that we start the ball rolling in this now as we're running out of time before the bill is debated.

sausagepastapot · 04/12/2017 16:40

I agree

JamPasty · 04/12/2017 22:40

I agree - I emailed Labour (I'm a member) to ask for an explanation, and was ignored.

hipsterfun · 05/12/2017 00:24

I agree.

And I too would like to know what Brendan Cox thinks about this.

counterpoint · 05/12/2017 19:51

*@ hipsterfun: I agree.

And I too would like to know what Brendan Cox thinks about this*

This is becoming vital. He's been espousing on various matters since his wife's savage death at the hands of a deranged man and yet sadly silent on this representation of other weaker women by another man.

Also, agree with others that trans-men are "non-men" or other types of men and definitely not any form of women so should not be sharing women's spaces.

NettleTea · 05/12/2017 23:53

Im just waiting for the link for this going live. Please please add your support on this thread and share the link as much as you can - this thread should be linked to the link, so the more names we can get on here to show the support, the better

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NettleTea · 06/12/2017 00:07

here

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PlonitbatPlonit · 06/12/2017 00:11

Thanks so much for all your work on this NettleTea.

RoderickRules · 06/12/2017 00:14

I agree

RoderickRules · 06/12/2017 00:14

Labour Party member btw...so tempted to leave...

DancingLedge · 06/12/2017 00:24

I agree

BetsyM00 · 06/12/2017 06:16

Fantastic NettleTea. I wonder what response it will get...

Sabistick · 06/12/2017 06:38

I have a really sound labour mp , on this issue, so feel i will vote labour. But, honestly i wish she was independent because corbyns labour party is a travesty. I agree with the letter.

NotAgainYoda · 06/12/2017 06:46

I agree. I would really struggle to vote Labour now

Their lack of intellectual rigour and their misogyny is worrying

makeourfuture · 06/12/2017 07:20

Their lack of intellectual rigour

Ouch!

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