Lily Madigan, TIM, elected Labour women's officer

[jMillicentFawcett]

Lily is 19. Lily was instrumental in the hate campaign against Anne Ruzylo which resulted in her standing down.

You have to be a woman to be women’s officer but ‘The Labour councillor said that “lived experience as a woman” should be considered an advantage — but not a prerequisite — for the role of women’s officer.’

Lily could also have gone for the LGBT officer role but they didn’t want that. No, they wanted to show women that they can shit all over them and we will applaud them for doing it.

I’m absolutely furious about this ( as you can probably tell)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8?shareToken=472df23aa6315582a4f6558d7a1be5ba

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Mrgh, I’m seeing all that (your first para) as smoke and mirrors. It’s repetitive ranting. Respond with politeness and philosophical accuracy, and emphasise the POV that women have in specific scenarios. Don’t get diverted by or join in with name calling etc. That’s the only way to discuss something - anything. I can’t see it’s obnoxious as long as you emphasis it’s the POV you are aware that many women have (imo!)

I think we’re all singing from the same song sheet!

I’m closing ears to ‘terf’ I don’t think anyone using it really understands the word and is just mud flinging.

In that case just say "your mum's a terf!"

MrGHardy - my husband regularly speaks out about this stuff on social media. He does it both because he wants to and because I can't (possible work consequences). What he does more than offer his own opinion, is retweet feminists speaking out with a simple note that he agrees, or links to blog posts or news articles.

Datun, in all seriousness that's the type of stuff women need to start doing.

If the previous tweets about LM on the Reclaim the Night weren't enough to boil your piss, try this photo which features LM bang in the middle of the group. Everything about LM is so fucking entitled

Omfg just watched that video!

Everyone seen this tweet today?

Jeremy Corbyn @ jeremycorbyn
Delighted to support @tiecampaign with @LabourRichard. An important campaign to combat homophobia, biphobia and transphobia in schools and champion inclusive education.

Thanks for opinions all, and Lang that sounds great, I have started doing this, too, more and more.

I was being a misogynist because I was a man, speaking for women, and women should speak for themselves
Intersectional "feminists"
If women speak for themselves they get called TERFs
Also speaking for women is not misogynist. It can be patronising or mansplainy but it sounds like in this case they were just trying to shut you up. Thank you for raising this stuff

Yes I saw that red. had to google what the I stood for in LGBTI. I wanted to add “and educate about sexism, blue pink brains, the patriarchy and misogyny” to the list but felt I was perhaps getting a bit too ranty. I know the tie symbol is a School thing but my initial reaction was men wear ties...

Adrie van der Meer has been making some very unpleasant misogynist tweets: twitter.com/msjenniferjames/status/935229900163878917

Unfortunately for him, they were screenshotted before he deleted them. This is surely indefensible now

It's defendable because we are now in the land of politics where lying has got to the point where it doesn't matter.

What only matters is whether you are a Tory or Labour. Your identity demands you turn a blind eye.

When did biphobia become a thing? If bisexuals experience prejudice, it's because of the lesbian or gay part of their being. ie it's anti-lesbian or anti-gay.

In fact when did any phobia that is about criticism become a thing? A phobia is an irrational fear. It's no good me criticising that spider, I just have to repress my panic and deal with it. I don't come over all panicked faced with seeing Lilliam on a women's march, I come over enraged.

Those tweets Millicent

Have retweeted and copied in some interested parties

Looking at the way this is developing it seems that LM's inexperience has led them to believe that so long as they've won today's scrap on social media, stuff like truth and consistency don't matter.

It doesn't work like that in politics, well, maybe for Trump, but not for someone at the beginning of carving out a political career.

Picking a fight with an established journalist is very unwise. Especially when the basis of the fight is calling them a liar. Particularly so when it's a baseless slur solely to appeal to supporters on social media.

Funnily enough Adrie has deleted their account maybe it will turn out to have been their younger brother all along

Phobias are extreme anxieties typically without any rational behind them.

If you have logic behind something, it is no longer necessarily a phobia but perhaps a learned response from experience which is totally.understandable. It is no longer totally irrational.

Note the link here between this and the use of the word 'hysteria'.

I would argue that some people, might never have had this bad experience or be fully aware of it (see men's total blindspot of sexual harassment) so can not conceive that it is some how totally rational.

It's the complete void in experience and narrowness of awareness that is problematic.

It doesn't work like that in politics, well, maybe for Trump, but not for someone at the beginning of carving out a political career.

Have you been following British politics lately? It's working just fine for numerous politicians.

The problem Lily has, is that Lily is disposable too though. When Lily has served the purpose Lily will be dumped.

Realities in British politics are currently being kicked down the road or a way found to dump the blame elsewhere.

Just looked up the JoCox programme. This is the excuse they can use to reject Lilliam:
As this is an advanced programme of high-quality training, candidates should already have some level of involvement with the Labour Party.

This is the contact email from the form
[email protected] shall we all drop them a line?
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That's why I wrote but not for someone at the beginning of carving out a political career. I was referring to LM.

Hmm. Trump. Has a bad wig ,wears terrible orange makeup, wants to take away women’s rights and accuses detractors of spreading Fake News while he spouts obvious lies.

Perhaps all these TIMs are missing a trick. They shouldn’t be insisting they’re women, they should be insisting they’re the President.

MillicentFawcett

Omfg! Those tweets. This is the guy who fed Lilly the information, in the first place, right?

Bloody hell. He’s positively unhinged.

What a nasty piece of work.