Whatitallabout70 you go on about no one here having a family member.
Well very clearly you haven't read this thread and are getting upset over something you THINK is being said but isn't. You are being ultra defensive and have made up your mind without bothering to read what's said properly. Take a step back. Cos you need to.
I have a sibling who is trans. I have concerns over their safety and well being. Are you suggesting I don't? That's what makes it so damn hard.
But I also am not prepared to be a doormat to them and let them walk all over me either. If my sibling is unreasonable give me one good reason why I should tolerate that, if I'm treating them the same as before. That's the question I have asked myself many times. Often the answer is they are treating me badly because they are trans but that's not an excuse and if they want me to treat them as before, I am absolutely right not to simply just take it.
As it goes i have a problem with Lily and with TRAs because they are acting in a way that is damaging to members of the trans community and to women because of the methods they are using and the out right lying, hypocrisy and double standards. They frighten me about what the consequences could be for my sibling because of poor conduct. I believe Lily is harming not helping my sibling's interests by being a piss poor trailblazer. That's the fucking point.
I hold all people who take up a political office equally in that I expect them to behave professionally and to put the interests of the community as a whole before their own bullshit.
If I see it happening anywhere, I call it. Lily is part of a pattern unfortunately and happens to be as the poster child for a political movement that is acting in a way that is counter to democratic principles.
Add to that the fact that Lily isn't remotely interested in representing the important issues that most women want a women's officer to talk about. You are right, trans people make up a tiny part of the population. Women make up 50% of it. So you tell me why, Lily prioritising trans issues over women's issues is a bloody big problem.
It's simply about Lily, and it's not merely that Lily identifies as trans. It's about toxic unrepresentative politics.
I call out individuals from any political party for indulging in this shit, and I'd actually be prejudice if I turned a blind eye to this, by treating Lily differently. It's part of the job description to deal with scrutiny.
If there wasn't a trail of bullshit from the past, no one would have much to talk about Lily personally either. But it's not just the bullshit, its the lying about it after the fact, when some of us have seen what was said previously and then mysteriously deleted.
This isn't hard. Don't be an arse and if you are caught don't lie about being an arse. Take some fucking responsibility if you desperately want to do this job. Earn some respect in showing you are up to the job. Don't treat the public who you want to represent with utter contempt.
Before you work yourself up into a frenzy, look at what has been actually said, and how the politics are framed to conflate ideas together as being similar to gain support and deliberately avoids talking about the differences as much as possible to avoid scrutiny. Homophobia has got fuck all to do with lying about your ambitions. Being liberal isn't about letting people off the hook for encouraging the closing down of poor debate. The argument should stand alone.
I'm sorry but it boils my piss when someone screams bigot without bothering to understand what anyone has said and goes on about how no one here could possibly understand the pain and misery of it all. It's emotional bollocks which deliberately misses the point.
Because you know trans issues trump all other possible concerns cos trans people.
Which is all too often about the depth of the argument.