Owen Jones

[Terfing]

Yes, I know he is a troll... But he is really fucking winding me up at the moment. He annoys me more than people like Katie Hopkins do!

He has been tweeting a lot today, and the past few weeks, about the importance of transgender acceptance. However, he isn't engaging with the many people disagreeing with him! He just posts another passive-aggressive tweet in response to concerns.

I just know we are going to get another shitty pro-trans article from him soon...

(I obviously do support trans people, but I am against the ideology!)

He isn't working class either, his mum was a lecturer and his dad an administrator in the public sector. He's horribly tone-deaf on that whole thing.

He's blocked me on Twitter so I don't get the joy of his tweets.

He's a rank misogynist, that's so clear now.

Such a disappointment. He seemed like such a brilliant young thing, years ago. Just another left wing male misogynist who thinks his brogressive credentials give him a free pass.

Funny how all this stuff got purchase at the same time as 'populism' and the extreme right did. I wonder if there's a funding link.

I don't think the far right are big fans of transsexuals

LOJ is an irritating, self-important, misogynistic brocialist and professional northerner. I can see why he appeals to the Guardian, they get to have a token working class voice without having to deal with any actual working class people.

He's Rik from The Young Ones.

YES!

He’s a cross between Adrian Mole & like others have said Rik from The Young Ones.
He’s full of self importance & I feel bad for wasting 2 minutes of my life typing about the man

I don't think the far right are big fans of transsexuals
But they do like 'useful idiots'.

Brocialist! Brogressive!

I liked "Chavs" but it's all been downhill from there.

And yes, there is something singularly infuriating about these kinds of men. You assume that they have thought about things, to end up at (broadly) the same political viewpoint, but actually they're just as blindly driven by ideology as their right-wing counterparts. It's actually terrifying.

Adrian Mole

Hands up, who likes me?

The Diary of Little Owen Jones, aged 33 and 1/4.

Spent today fending off attacks from nasty women. Why do women hate me so much? Why can't they agree with me, like Mummy does? Paris (I love Paris, she always agrees with me), says it's because they are CIS and TERFs, and they can't woman properly like she does.

Owen Jones once said that builders shouldn't be listened to as voices of the working class because they tend to be self employed and can have high earning potential. So not just a misogynist but just an all round idiot.

To be fair OneFlew that is not his idea. Historicall socialists considered anyone running a small business part of the petty bourgeoisie. It's a fairly divisive philosophy really.

At first DH was amused but then it all got too tactile and the man wouldn’t stop despite DH asking politely and firmly many times. Eventually three men had to drag the man off DH while the he shouted that i should go to bed and leave them alone

Good Lord! What an abusive twat. Clearly one of those gay men who hates women. I thought they'd all grown up (I knew a few in the late 70s). What an old-fashioned throwback.

I responded to his latest series of tweets asking him not to use the term 'cis' as I found it offensive. NO response, but an interesting series of debates.

The number of little tween tweeters who have no idea of the importance of making the distinction between sex and gender baffles me. They think they're soooooo progressive.

Bring back 70s Women's Lib, I say! even the homity pie & smelly hair and patchouli.

I agree with him to some extent about builders. They earn above the average wage. It is part of sexism that they are seen as working class when women on far lower wages are deemed middle class because people think it is acceptable for women to be on lower wages.

Homity pie! I'd forgotten about that. I wonder if the head shop still sells patchouli?

The only reason he has a column is the grauniad feels it has to dish out the odd sweetie to token representatives of the northern working classes.
How nasty!

I’ve seen the way he likes to incite pile-ons on female journalists who have the temerity to disagree with him. He’s a nasty misogynist with the critical thinking and self-reflection skills of a gnat.

Yes I get that, but that's not all builders by any means - the vast majority work as contractors on building sites, but Owen's point was that because SOME of them can be wealthy, then builders shouldn't be listened to as a working class voice. Which is absurd seeing as it's a key working class career.

Also, there's a question on how much choice individual builders have over being self employed when most building companies now insist on having contractors rather than employees because of saving on NI and pensions etc.

Owen Jones reminds me of going to university as a bog-standard working class person and finding all of these posh people from privileged backgrounds telling me what working class people think and what they should be doing.

Yes, generally builders don't get to choose to be self-employed, it is just the way the building industry works. And there is a lot of exploitation within it, which is why most socialists do see builders as working class.

Anyway, if builders shouldn't be listened to, what about journalists with columns in broadsheets? Are they somehow working class when skilled manual workers aren't?

I meant average wage of builders is above the average wage. Class has changed a great deal.

Bet wee Owen isn't short of a bob or three even if he is faux working class. But of course he would claim that's different....

nauticant that was my experience coming from a manual working background- when I got to college the socialist groups were mainly clueless posh twats. This was around the time the Left abandoned its reason for existing (workers' rights) and jumped on every identity politics bandwagon, faraway political conflict and favoured "oppressed" groups. It never recovered from that and Owen Jones is the result. John Harris in the Guardian is far better, he actually talks to people and even better, listens to them.

I'm expecting Owen along soon, it'll be like "Candyman" if we say his name often enough