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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans guidelines for schools in Scotland

189 replies

LemonJello · 08/11/2017 14:14

New guidelines:

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/files/documents/Supporting_Transgender_Young_People_-_Digital_version.pdf

Sorry I’m not sure how to do a clicky link.

I haven’t read through it properly yet but will do now. Just posting as I’m sure others will be interested.

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OldmanOfTheWeb · 14/02/2018 18:35

Ah, in for a penny in for a pound. One more thing...

I imagine most of my concerns with the Trans Youth guidance have been picked apart by others so I'll skip the full list. But I took the time to look into some of the research they use for it (didn't take long - there's hardly any). The page full of stats showing parental support helping children gets all its figures from a PRELIMINARY results in Canada that used a small sample size and for which the base data is not available. Also, the institute doing it is the "Trans Pulse Project", I'll leave it to the intelligent people of Mumsnet to conclude whether there could be bias at work or not.

Of course parents should be supportive of their children and of course that helps them. But the Scottish Trans guidelines just present some dubious figures as fact to imply if you don't whole-heartedly support your child AS a trans, you're harming them. There's nothing about questioning it or whether parental encouragement could harm the child long-term. Combined with the way they advise schools to actively promote trans identity with posters and celebrities to actually encourage children to identify as trans, I think it's downright dangerous to kids.

OvaHere · 14/02/2018 18:49

Welcome Oldman

Yes you can post here, we have a few men that stick around. Be warned though the conversation in these parts can be quite robust. But I'm sure you realised that Grin

There is a thread running on the transgender trend guidance if you want to join

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3166853-Transgender-Trends-new-resource-pack-for-schools

Many of us share similar concerns about guidance in schools that has been prepared by Mermaids and GIRES.

terryleather · 14/02/2018 18:58

I really want to write to the equalities commission about this but I find it so difficult not to rant, I had the same problem filling out the GRA consultation...

OldmanOfTheWeb · 14/02/2018 19:29

Thanks. I am a delicate male - I shall try to hang on. Grin

I missed that link. I'll go over to that thread then. I have been debating this mainly on Twitter and a pack has now formed and is working itself into a frenzy at this document. The producers have reported that it's hitting 1,000 downloads per minute so that's good news. :)

OvaHere · 14/02/2018 19:31

The producers have reported that it's hitting 1,000 downloads per minute so that's good news.

Wow that's amazing!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/02/2018 19:36

That could just be TRAs trying to bring the site down

OvaHere · 14/02/2018 19:40

That could just be TRAs trying to bring the site down

I didn't think of that Sad

OldmanOfTheWeb · 14/02/2018 20:18

Ah, sorry. It's one a minute. Which is still amazing. Just not insane.

Don't know how I managed to type that and there doesn't seem to be an edit. No option but to own up to being a klutz, I guess! My bad!

OvaHere · 14/02/2018 20:42

That sounds more realistic. Still great! Grin

thebewilderness · 15/02/2018 03:00

Transgender advocates are trying to create a new class of males that cannot be refused by the lower classes. I wonder how long the other children will put up with it.

Flamingowings · 15/02/2018 09:48

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OldmanOfTheWeb · 15/02/2018 11:10

Thanks, Flamingowings. Good to hear!

And no, I believe in universal equal rights and the wellbeing of children above all.

LangCleg · 15/02/2018 11:12

Welcome from me too, Oldman. Stick around!

fascinated · 20/02/2018 21:47

Has anyone contacted their LA about these? If so, any response?

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