Women prefer working for male bosses

[DamsonInDistressss]

It seems a common argument that the lack of women in senior management positions is a result of the patriarchy. However, I was surprised to read in a recent thread on here that the majority of women prefer female bosses and are more likely to collaborate with a man than with another woman. I can't find that thread so am reposting here.

If true, this is surely a prime example of us women shooting ourselves in the foot and must be a serious contributor to male dominance.

When 50% of managers are women it’s time to nitpick their behaviour. Reading this just makes me want to be the boss, so no idiot is telling me what to do!

Any comment on the studies that have been linked Melody?

Or actual ideas on why biology could have an effect on someone's managerial performance?

Yes cos patriarchy and cos biology.
Nowt to do wi me.

I never said you were a man. Interesting that you choose to accuse me of that though

What was the point of "goodnight bro"? Do not refer to me as "bro". I am not your "bro" (thank goodness) nor anyone else's.

I skim read over the rest of your wall of text, which I assume will be as patronising as your previous posts.

Yes cos patriarchy and cos biology.

😂😂😂😂

You called yourself an ‘employer’, you said you worked in a ‘law office’ your words. Unusual choice

Having said I won't respond this little snippet of ignorance is too priceless to resist.

You clearly know absolutely nothing about how law firms work- how much importance is set internally about our roles as employers as a firm and individuals.

My experience of female bosses (not managers but ceos ) has largely been negative. I wouldn't say I'd prefer a male boss but neither would I just expect to get on with a female one by dint of my sex.

Lass, why on earth do you keep referring to your experience as if it's universal? It's not. There were two female bullies in your firm, whoop-de-do. As I said, the most aggressive partners I've known have been male. I do have to admit that my only two excellent bosses have been since I left private practice, I'm not particularly enamoured of that environment in any event.
One aspect we haven't discussed is the question of "sexual capital" . Certainly when I was a pretty young trainee surrounded by other pretty young trainees, I did wonder whether the preference some of them expressed for male bosses (not reflected in my perception by the quality of associate/partner involved) was because it is not possible to trade on "sexual capital" with a female boss?

I don't mean sleeping with people to clarify! I just mean the tendency of men to treat pretty young woman better.

Lass, why on earth do you keep referring to your experience as if it's universal? It's not

Where on earth , to quote you , have I said it is universal? I have no more said that than you , or other posters , have said of your or their experience. Please stop making things up.

I am shocked and depressed by the suggestion that bad female bosses can't be let off the hook because it is the fault of the patriarchy. How infantilising.

The tendency of men to treat pretty young woman better
Yes this 100%. I knew my instinctive desire to crush such women and make their working life a misery was entirely justified. Seeing as there are so many lawyers on here would anyone be willing to represent me to bring a case against my employer? My being a terrible boss is clearly their fault and I deserve compensation. The tone is set from the top and I have no personal choice or responsibility.

So...cos patriarchy, cos biology and cos tonefromthetop.

Only explanation

Yep, that sneery tone is oh so familiar.

I think you perceive assertiveness from a female as bitchy. Not so much for men those. More women in senior positions can change this perception.

I just mean the tendency of men to treat pretty young woman better.

Hang on, I was under the impression that men treat women worse, which is why it's so hard for women to rise to the top and those that do have had to fight against systemic misogyny.
But now I read they are treat better? If they are treat better, why aren't they rising ahead of the men?

I have also been bullied terribly by female bosses.
I now work in a very male industry and I've only ever been treated fairly.
Unfortunately I think it is actually a thing!

I've had 4 female bosses and they were cunts. I've had 4 make bosses and they were also cunts but not as bad as the women. TBH, I tend to prefer men to women in general.

Sunshine I don't care what you believe. Feel free to report me if you think I am lying. I have no intention of providing you with personal information. I have been posting here for several years (unlike you?) and have regularly commented on aspects of Scots Law.

Well done in spotting a typo posted in haste rushing for a train . You are correct that "can't" should be "can".

I see so many complaints on FWR about women not being taken seriously in the workplace- yet you post infantilising excuses that the fact women cannot moderate inappropriate bullying behaviour in the workplace is all down to patriarchy. If women can't work out how to behave apropriately in a workplace then perhaps they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

As for you being a lawyer- yet you go around calling people "bro"? Very odd.

I am impressed with the beginner's feminist bingo scorecard in your last post. I think there is a full house there. I particularly like that not agreeing with you is "derailing"

Dey, as far as I know young women do in fact out-earn men. It's later on that the gap appears. Note, I am not saying this is because they are treated better by men - also being treated/spoke to better doesn't necessarily mean being promoted!
Also, I'm definitely not saying female bosses are better than men. Ime, twattishness, bitchiness, incompetence etc is fairly evenly spread across genders. I don't believe the world would be a better place if it was run by women. However, there are two responses to a survey showing more people prefer a male boss to a female boss. A: women as a class are just inherently, by the very nature, flawed, crappy and not suited to being a boss B: some other factors may be in play. Lass, and others like her, are going with B (lass, you said you're not generalising but you also said those 2 female bullies were "empiric evidence". Evidence of what?) I, some other posters, and, as I understand, quite a bit of research, are going with B. In even trying to discuss B, we keep on going back to those 2 female bullies (in my view, empiric evidence of...there being 2 female bullies in Lass's firm) and this sneery "cos biology, cos patriarchy" style of posting.

Sorry, I should say Lass and others are going with A! And just to say I definitely disagree with the poster saying lass's posting style means she's not a lawyer. We're not writing legal documents here!

Lass has a long posting history, has said she's a lawyer in Scotland many times, often comments on law, particularly Scottish.
And sunshine you don't believe for one second she's a lawyer?
She's certainly been playing a long game then, claiming to be a lawyer for possibly years just to derail this thread.