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Women prefer working for male bosses

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DamsonInDistressss · 06/11/2017 22:13

It seems a common argument that the lack of women in senior management positions is a result of the patriarchy. However, I was surprised to read in a recent thread on here that the majority of women prefer female bosses and are more likely to collaborate with a man than with another woman. I can't find that thread so am reposting here.

If true, this is surely a prime example of us women shooting ourselves in the foot and must be a serious contributor to male dominance.

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MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 15:38

If you win an argument against Sunshine the only possible explanation is "You must be a man!!!!"

SophieLMumsnet · 09/11/2017 16:13

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sillage · 09/11/2017 17:11

I worked for a translations company in New York where the gay male boss would fly to Thailand 5-6 times a year and everyone knew why.

He would return with a handful of cheap silver trinkets and distribute them as gifts through the office bragging, "Everything is so cheap there, everything is so cheap..."

Your serve, misogynists.

MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 17:15

Homophobe

thedancingbear · 09/11/2017 17:16

That's right Sillage. Those gays you get, most of them are paedos too, aren't they?

ffs.

MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 17:18

Today 17:11 sillage
The gay male boss would fly to Thailand 5-6 times a year and everyone knew why
Why?
Enlighten us please, Sillage.

SomeDyke · 09/11/2017 17:38

I typed in a long post earlier then lost it. I was talking about sexism/homophobia and racism existing in the workplace, hence questions addressing issues of sex/race/sexual orientation being valid. But many of the answers on here have been of a different sort as regards women bosses. In particular, using 'bossy' and 'bitchy', these being applied solely to women.

A gay male manager (a friend of mine), described to me a possible interaction between sexual orientation and sex. So, he discovered that he had some issues with dealing with straight female members of staff. He thinks it was because he wasn't out at work, and they used a style of interaction with him that was 'aimed' at straight men. I think he may have come across as 'abrupt' because didn't respond in quite the way they expected. I think this could have been perceived as sexism, and one of his staff members made several vexatious complaints, that to him came across as a sort of hidden homophobia (as opposed to the totally overt homophobia that we can see demonstrated just a few posts above).

sillage · 09/11/2017 17:39

Oh, were you there in the translations company too? Then you know like the rest of the staff that he went there to rape little boys.

And since you're so appalled, let me add that this man's company was threatened by the city with losing its license because he despised women to the point of never hiring them. After the city insisted he meet the barest of bare USA equal opportunity laws or face consequences, a wave of low-level and mid-level women (two of them his female relatives) were hired on the quick.

Noneedforasitter · 09/11/2017 18:49

Well this thread has been fun, but you’ll have to excuse me because I am due back on the planet earth.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 09/11/2017 19:02

I'm trying to figure out what sillage's point is, and how it relates to this thread...

MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 19:08

Today 17:39 sillage

You know like the rest of the staff that he went there to rape little boys

How do you know?

sillage · 09/11/2017 19:28

I know because he bragged about it openly.

For the more dense readers, I posted it because I felt the stories showing the pinnacle of women boss awfulness as "mean and misogynist" is about 1% as awful as the routine extreme violences, sexual and otherwise, men bosses commit every day.

But please keep focusing on bitchy women bosses and how their bitchiness is the most egregious behavior of all kinds of behaviors.

MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 19:36

Today 19:28 sillage

I know because he bragged about it openly
What did you do with that admission?

sillage · 09/11/2017 19:43

This thread would be much more timely and relevant if any of the thousands of women who worked for Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, James Toback, etc. were to show up and share their women boss vs men boss anecdotes.

Are we allowed to include the behaviors of those men bosses in this conversation, or are those men bosses off the table?

I'm sure at some point Rose McGowan worked for a woman who was mean and emotionally cruel to her, and I'm also sure no woman she worked for raped her.

DamsonInDistresss · 09/11/2017 19:44

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MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 19:45

I will ask again

I know because he bragged about it [raping boys] openly
What did you do with that admission?

sillage · 09/11/2017 19:47

"What did you do with that admission?"

Such an illuminating cross-post considering how the women speaking up about Weinstein are being widely maligned for not upending their lives and making it their personal mission to stop him from raping again.

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MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 20:00

What did you do at the time he was your boss? And he was "openly bragging" about "raping little boys" in your workplace on his 5-6 trips to Thailand each year? If he was "openly bragging" - you don't need a recording, you would have had independent witnesses.

So I ask again. What did you do?

sillage · 09/11/2017 20:00

Now that you have his name and you know what his crimes are, you can be the hero of the story. Go for it!

MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 20:03

I have your (potentially libellous) allegation. NOT evidence.
YOU claim that he made an open bragging admission of raping children in your workplace (the admission not the child raping).

What did you do with that information while he was your boss?

MelodyvonPeterswald · 09/11/2017 20:14

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