Organising this fight.

[TitaniasCloset]

On another thread I have been wondering if we can't organise and fight this fight properly.

I'm hoping this thread can be a space for us to organise and think about what we do next and throw out ideas.

I think we need a central website that will have a name that's also appealing to non feminists.

As in the other thread , I'm happy to open my home as a point to chat and organise. I'm in south London.

I also think we should have a social media campaign and as many of us as possible make videos for our social media accounts, even if you are crap at this as I am, I can't edit or anything. So long as you feel able.

We need to put together ten points at least for this. The first five of which need to be snappy and appeal to most women if people want to make shorter videos.

There is no point preaching to the choir, we need to have this simplified and slick enough to appeal to women like my sister who is working class as I am and just ignores every bloody thing I send her on this topic.

On the other hand we need to have the intellectual women ready to go with mass media and write their blogs etc.

Also I think the Richie Allen show would be a good place to send someone on, we have to choose who. I would do it but I'm shit at remembering facts and figures really. I'm no intellectual I'm afraid.

I'm a bit pissed tonight do this might not be totally coherent but you know what I'm saying here.

We have to fight back.

Ok, sorry
It did seem like you were trying to become a hub, offering your house etc.
I guess I'm prickly as there is so much going on in secret groups and networks and its hard work to keep it going positively. The nature of this issue makes a lot of women wary about joining with others or being visible about their concerns because there are genuine risks involved.
I think I misunderstood due to the wine you had consumed making you super enthusiastic but perhaps less comprehensible than you usually are I'm sure

Op, I got what you want.

I get exactly why people are weary of such a thing, I know someone who was doxed over something about this topic.

I do think there needs to be a concentrated and concerted effort to reach out to people who don't traditionally identify with online feminism. I think there needs to be a more mainstream push - it's the only way to get voices like ours heard in debates without no platforming.

I'm glad people liked my sticker idea. I'm not on Facebook but if people want me to sort it out, I'll happily try to do something.

OP - I get what you're suggesting and think it's great - but others are right about the absolute fear that women have given the threats and hostility from transgender activists.
I don't want to be over optimistic but in the last few days there have been articles in the Sun:
www.thesun.co.uk/news/4743981/government-blasted-ban-pregnant-woman-trans-parents/
The Mirror: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/record-50-children-week-referred-11390561
as well as articles in the Times, Telegraph and Mail.

This is really important - the comments underneath all articles are almost universally sceptical and it's only when it's in the mainstream that politicians will begin to take notice. So individually we need to keep talking, being brave and commenting on social media, calling out the threats and silencing and going on and on and on about the dangers of self ID to women and children, the harm being done to children through social contagion and potential use of drugs and surgery.
That is when things may start to change....

And maybe we could share this petition:
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/202435

It needs far more signatures and this is when politicians sit up and take notice.

Adalind Actually even when I'm not pissed I can get a bit carried away and come over as pushy, I put it down to having my moon in Aries, others probably would just tell me I need to shut up sometimes.

I only came across the trans issue and really got into feminism last year. I don't know anyone in my real life who is really active about this. I only know one actual feminist! My friends mum who was involved with feminism in the 70's and 80's and we had a really great chat about it because she had been directly affected by the trans issue herself last year in a personal situation.

I would love to join an actual real life feminist group and start going to talks and things, but I haven't so far as I had no one to go with. I'm just going to go by myself the next time a conference or talk happens near me.

I think my real life friends and family just tolerate me sending them links or occasionally making them watch YouTube videos and posting endless links on social media. They know what I'm like when I'm interested in something. (I have schizo affective disorder and can be a bit single minded) But it has done some good, even my lodger posted a link on my social media this week about the trans issue knowing I would be interested in it and he completely agrees with my point of view. As does everyone so far who I have actually explained it to. And that's because of reading all the Mumsnet and blog posts myself.

I think it's brilliant that mainstream media is now posting better articles about this. That's absolutely down to the work of some very sensible feminists finally getting through to people.

I know you said you don't use Facebook much but there are groups that you could join and make connections. Twitter has its place but it's more anonymous than Facebook so harder to actually connect with people. Gender critical feminists is one group which I think is UK based.

There really is loads of stuff happening on Facebook. Stickers, for example, are already in progress. I would recommend you join into the existing networks.

My lodger just came in from work and was talking about the loose woman bullshit, not calling pregnant mothers women and said, 'this means that they have no respect for my mother my grandmother their mothers', he gets it! Big macho Latino guy that he is.

People are waking up. Ordinary people who thought I was quite mad a year ago and that's absolutely down to all the feminists who have been fighting this fight.