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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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PricklyBall · 16/10/2017 21:02

I've scrolled back a few pages and I can't even find the last pub thread.

So I've taken the beer towels off the pumps, tapped a new barrel, polished the glasses, fed the goat and applied brasso to the patriarchy busting canon.

Come and join me - all tastes catered for - beer, gin, wine, cocktails, coffee and a nice cup of tea.

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Terrylene · 06/12/2017 22:43

The elbow creases are for cradling babies appaz

I seeeee.........

IME they prefer being over one shoulder anyway, and not horizontal, but cradling is safer for relatives not used to floppy bundles.

PricklyBall · 07/12/2017 07:30

The ad bot on mumsnet has a sense of irony: here I am browsing the feminism section and an ad appears in the right hand side of the screen for "presents for him" suggesting a box set of Planet of the Apes.

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SweetGrapes · 07/12/2017 09:27

Hi

Is it too early in the morning to swing by here? Was hoping for a nice strong coffee.. my head's hurts from all the threads in FWR...

Thelilywhite · 07/12/2017 09:56

Hmm me too. Could do with a large americano then back to the laptop for mp letter writting.

BeyondAssignation · 07/12/2017 10:06

I have a new bean to cup machine (cheers Black Friday!) and have had three cups already

I can share :) Brew

NeverEverAnythingEver · 07/12/2017 13:20

I've had coffee and tea and a bacon sandwich and now I'm having lunch.

Who know that about elbow crease! I shall examine DH's elbows when he's back later.

Popchyk · 07/12/2017 13:29

I have just been to the shops to stock up ahead of the promised Snowmageddon. Which probably won't even happen.

Will have a mulled wine while I await the apocalypse, ta. Wine

Nyx1 · 07/12/2017 14:00

Popchyk, please tell me you are in the north of England....!

It might explain the state of the shops today but curently I think the forecast for here is a few snowflakes tomorrow afternoon. I don't event want those!

Popchyk · 07/12/2017 14:24

Midlands/Welsh border. The local paper is a bit giddy about the prospect of snow.

Shops weren't too busy here today.

BeyondAssignation · 07/12/2017 15:25

South Wales here, I dunno about snow but it is bloody freezing!!

It can snow now anyway - I've got my tree Grin
(I am so excited, it's the first year that I've had my own real tree!)

SophoclesTheFox · 07/12/2017 17:56

Hello all, can I have a large glass of a spicy red wine please - do we have any rioja maybe?

Today I am sick of low level misogyny. Two men at work, who unconsiously (I hope) have the women that they work with divided into "ones I'd fuck, and am therefore nice to", and "unfuckable ones, who I will speak to like shit". It's so obvious. I heard one of them on the phone trying to hide his assets from his wife who's divorcing him (can't think why Hmm ). There's nothing I can do about it, they don't report to me, and there's nothing tangible enough for a complaint...just urgh.

Then a bloke on a bike today called me a fucking cunt because I was unexpectedly in his path when a car suddenly braked in front of me and stopped me getting across the road in time. I'm a cyclist myself, so I understand it's scary when you think you're going to hit people, but it's just depressing that his instinct wasn't to shout "Look out!", but straight to a misogynistic slur.

And my household is in a shambles since I've got my new job and I can't facilitate any more. Husband was supposed to step up, but hasn't and can't understand why him holding up random odds and sods and bleating "do we recycle this?" makes me so very, very angry.

"But you know these things!", he says.

"I will insert them in you if you ask me again", I say.

"I'm only asking", he says. "Why is it so hard to just tell me?"

Why? Because you are making it MY JOB to know these things, because secretly, deep down, you think this is WOMEN'S SHIT TO DEAL WITH. And what you don't realise is that it will make my vagina clang shut like a portcullis, because I am weirdly completely unattracted to helpless child like creatures.

And yet, you continue to ask.

Argh!!!!!

QuentinSummers · 07/12/2017 18:25

Oh sophocles Flowers
I will join you for a Wine. My day today has largely been hormone related self doubt and imposter syndrome. I feel like everyone I talk to thinks I'm an idiot. My brain sucks.

Nyx1 · 07/12/2017 18:29

Blimey Sophocles, I'd be asking for more than a mulled wine.

although now I'd like one too Grin

the colleagues - about 10 years ago, I was at a work do and a 25 year old ish guy came in, saw the only spaces were with some 50somethings and said "oh I'm not sitting with you old women".

on my table, most of turned around and said "well if you think anyone's making room for you after that...."

he had to go and sit in the only empty seats then and no one talked to him. And everyone was glad when he left the organisation Grin

SophoclesTheFox · 07/12/2017 18:42

Me too on the imposter syndrome, quentin - oh, for the confidence of a mediocre white man, eh?!

Have some wine with me, nyx, it's pretty much the weekend so what the hell.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 07/12/2017 18:57

Mine's a sherry tonight I think. A little glimmer of hope in an otherwise dark world.......I've THE chat with workplace boss. I managed to get hold of her before she attended a training session on THE issue, at which she was due to speak. She showed me the guidelines that have been sent out and I was able to point out the origins of some of the references and stats (thanks to you lot). She already has some handle on the issues (knew about the TopShop malarkey for example and Stonewall's capitulation). Wily bird that she is, there is already an agreement amongst fellow professionals to take back the training info to own agencies to discuss and draw up own position. I forwarded Helen Saxby's blog for her to read ahead of the training day.
Totally receptive, as I knew she would be.
Cheers Wine

whitehandledkitchenknife · 07/12/2017 19:00

I've had THE chat with workplace boss

SophoclesTheFox · 07/12/2017 19:21

Great news, whitehandled! Calm and professional is the way to go.

ALittleBitOfButter · 09/12/2017 20:12

I need a large red wine and my eyes bleached. Just started reading the rape culture thread. The op is unbearable.

AssassinatedBeauty · 09/12/2017 20:16

Just wait until you get to the end of the thread...

SophoclesTheFox · 09/12/2017 20:20

Vile, isn't it? The OP is a tool, and the inevitable sea lions/NAMALTers/rape apologists aren't even bright enough to be interesting.

Nyx1 · 09/12/2017 21:26

Lucky I missed that one.

I'm not sure what THE chat is, is it about loos? They won't do anything about ours because there are separate sex loos in another section of the building...it's really stupid because the unisex ones are usually empty, no one wants to use them. (to be clear, it's cubicles with the sinks outside).

Meanwhile, I don't have a link - and i don't have the heart to search - but I gather some speaker has given a talk about what your baby might tell you about gender preferences....like at 18 months or something?! I don't think it was a joke....

ALittleBitOfButter · 09/12/2017 22:10

I'm not going back there Assassinated! Too depressing.

whitehandledkitchenknife · 09/12/2017 22:17

Nyx1 - training on the Transgender Guidelines and the GRA. A couple of colleagues have subsequently approached her with concerns. I have hope.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 09/12/2017 22:27

alittlebitofbutter

I think that thread has stopped now

The OP has pissed off and so has his mate

Nyx1 · 10/12/2017 11:07

Isn't current training just supplying Kool Aid though?