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14 year old girl raped in broad daylight

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NoLoveofMine · 16/09/2017 12:44

Not that any rape in any circumstance isn't horrendous but yet another horrific case, a 14 year old girl raped in a park in the middle of the day. That this kind of thing goes on and receives so little coverage is abhorrent. I'm so angry at the lives of women and girls being ruined like this, because these men choose to attack. I'm not articulating this too well but am just enraged.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/girl-14-raped-london-avery-hill-park-greenwich-teenager-a7949851.html

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TSSDNCOP · 16/09/2017 12:55

It is horrific. I heard it on the BBC radio news this morning, it is getting coverage and a description is out there.

What did cross my mid though was that it was a considered place to undertake the attack. It's misleading to think because of the name and proximity to Greenwich this would be a bustling park. During school hours and term-time it would likely be quite unpopulated. It is absolutely surrounded by playing and school fields too.

I hope that they catch this clearly very dangerous man, and that this poor young woman can find the strength and support to nail him.

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NoLoveofMine · 16/09/2017 13:04

It's a horrendous attack no matter the location. Yet another attack on a teenage girl by a violent man with complete contempt for women and girls.

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DJBaggySmalls · 16/09/2017 14:35

We need to have specific lessons at school to tackle this now, for both sexes, and to include self defense for girls in PE.

Elendon · 16/09/2017 14:42

Raped in broad daylight as opposed to what? At night? In the home? Whilst drunk?

I find this disturbing. And what has her age got to do with it?

Elendon · 16/09/2017 14:44

My daughter's hated PE. What are they supposed to do if they dislike PE? Sit at home. Never go out?

Men are the problem. All of them. I say all of them, because they refuse outright to acknowledge the situation regarding the freedom of human females to be free to do what they want.

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NoLoveofMine · 16/09/2017 14:48

Raped in broad daylight as opposed to what? At night? In the home? Whilst drunk?

I find this disturbing. And what has her age got to do with it?

I find your tone upsetting. I care hugely about all male violence. My point was to emphasise that women and girls of all ages are at risk of male violence everywhere. Should the age of the girl attacked not be mentioned?

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Elendon · 16/09/2017 15:03

I find your tone upsetting. You focus entirely on young girls being attacked. This is your second post.

I was sexually abused by my father at 12. In broad daylight, in the sanctity of my own home. I understand. However, all rape is rape. No matter what age the female. No matter what circumstances they were in. Broad daylight, at night - at the age of 14 I did have to walk home at night after drama practice. Perhaps I should have not bothered with doing something I loved doing? For my safety?

Don't talk to me about tone. I know very well the tone that an abuser uses.

DJBaggySmalls · 16/09/2017 15:14

I didnt enjoy doing self defense but it saved my life. If we carry on doing what we do now, then nothing changes. Teaching self defense is not victim blaming.

PacificDogwod · 16/09/2017 15:17

Yy to more education at home and at school.

I am a mother to boys and I feel a huge sense of responsibility to not raise them to be entitled pricks.

Harrowing care SadAngry

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NoLoveofMine · 16/09/2017 15:59

You focus entirely on young girls being attacked. This is your second post.

No I don't but even if I did I can't see why it's wrong to highlight such horrendous attacks. I don't know what "this is your second post".

I've never once said anything other than all rape is rape. I abhor and am enraged by male violence. It's my primary reason for coming to feminism. I don't know why you're suggesting I've ever insinuated people shouldn't walk home at night. I was once given abuse by some (not posters in Feminism) for starting a thread about walking home at night, which I often do after going out. I started this thread because I was enraged to read of another horrendous attack on a girl/woman.

I'm very sorry to read of the abuse you suffered.

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Elendon · 16/09/2017 16:16

I know that 'attacks' on young women are horrendous, horrific etc, but this is rape by men on young women.

I appreciate you bringing this to the fore, again. But it's not like I didn't hear it on the news/radio or read about it. It's what happens to a lot of young women and females.

There is an estimated 85,000 rapes each year. That is probably the tip of the iceberg. None of those should be singled out. All are horrendous.

Elendon · 16/09/2017 16:20

And I can't bear the 'I'm new here, please be gentle with me' approach.

It's inappropriate in a thread like this.

I'm not baby stepping a grown adult.

retreatwhispering · 16/09/2017 16:24

I am a mother to boys and I feel a huge sense of responsibility to not raise them to be entitled pricks.

A bit OT, Pacific, but I feel that responsibility too. It overwhelmed me to start with. Until one day I told DH, who said, 'but that's my job. You don't have to take responsibility for it'. It hadn't crossed my mind that we should expect men to combat male entitlement.

retreatwhispering · 16/09/2017 16:26

Elendon, NoLove isn't a new poster AFAIK and I think she's actually still at school.

I do agree that rape is rape.

Elendon · 16/09/2017 16:28

Can I ask a couple of questions?

If women and young women and girls haven't learnt how to defend themselves does this make it less horrific?

Are they in some way to blame for their lack of compliance?

What use is self defence lessons against someone who is at least six stone heavier and five inches taller than you?

Elendon · 16/09/2017 16:33

Fair enough. New to feminism? I'm not biting heads, simply pointing out the reality. It's harsh for all females.

I'm sorry if I come across as being strident.

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NoLoveofMine · 16/09/2017 16:34

Thank you retreatwhispering, as you say I'm not a new poster (been here for many months) and I'm 17.

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DJBaggySmalls · 16/09/2017 18:43

Elendon - I'm sorry to hear that you were attacked. Please don't put people off taking self defense.
Self defense lessons dont turn you into an invincible superhero. They wont make you bigger or stronger than your attacker. But they at least make you feel less helpless. If thats all they do they are worth it.
Its like learning to swim. Hopefully you'll never need it, it wont always save your life, but its better than not taking it.

WillowWeeping · 16/09/2017 18:53

elendon you're being unfair.

There is something particularly shocking about a daylight rape of a 14 year old. Not because it's worse, or more tragic but because one assumes that at 14 she'd likely have appeared, to anyone around, as more vulnerable than an adult woman so it being ignored would be particularly shocking.

Elendon · 16/09/2017 19:27

I was attacked as a 12 year old. By my father. Actually, sexually assaulted, he physically attacked me when I was 13. It was, ironically, my female PE teacher (I went to an all girls school) who discovered the bruises. I begged her not to say anything.

Was that not horrendous?

Elendon · 16/09/2017 19:29

My 12/13 year old self will never be erased.

But all sexual assault is horrendous. This isn't the Olympics when it comes to sexual assault.

And 14 year old teenage females are particularly ripe for assault. It doesn't surprise me in the least.

Elendon · 16/09/2017 19:38

Oh forgot to add.

My father was a head teacher of a primary school (mixed).

Pillar of the community!

QuentinSummers · 16/09/2017 19:41

elendon wtf? Did you actually read the OP? Also nolove has been posting here for ages. You are being out of order.
I think it's a horrific event and if we can't talk about it on a feminist board, where can we talk about it? In no way was nolove suggesting it was worse. She said Not that any rape in any circumstance isn't horrendous....That this kind of thing goes on and receives so little coverage is abhorrent
Do you agree with that point? I do.

OlennasWimple · 16/09/2017 19:44

Flowers Elendon

I mean this in a nice way, but perhaps this thread is a bit too close to home for you?