Pink News - you can't deadname a rapist

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www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/09/08/the-mail-just-implied-a-transgender-rapist-made-unwanted-sexual-advances-because-she-has-a-penis/

They have finally lost the plot. It's utterly shameful

I'm sure I remember reading about this at least in the last year.

Datun this person's transfer to a women's prison was reported in March this year.

Ah ok. As far as I remember, anyone who had anything to say about him said he was an absolute monster.

Google does definitely change things. I don't know whether the fact that there are so many transwomen in tech has anything to do with that, or whether it's a tin foil moment for me.

But the assumption that the Internet is there forever, is obviously a mistake. If google removed his name, when you googled rapes, something should have come up at least. Even if it didn't name him specifically.

I think its really troubling that Martin Ponting has all but vanished without a trace. If he hadn't transitioned whilst in jail and then drawn the tabloids' attention by behaving like a predator in the women's prison we'd be none the wiser.

"My MP said the existence of AGP was controversial!"

I wish I had a Pensieve! (For non Harry Potter fans, it's a bowl you can put memories in, so other people can see them for themselves).

Most of my memories of my ex are pretty grim and are generally fucked up. I had a whole list of experiences typed out there, but I can't bring myself to post them. It was actually quite traumatic. I was only 16 when I met this guy (who had just turned 18). We were 17 and 19 before I cut him off (after 8 awful months). I actually think he made me a lot more vulnerable to some of the bastards I met after that, than I realised until recently. He was the first guy to succesfully mess with my head, and I've still never spoken about it irl. I don't give people the benefit of the doubt as much now. Politicians trying to imply AGP may not exist! So what, I just imagined everything that man put me through..? Wish I'd realised that sooner

The local papers' online archives only go back to 1998 so that may be the reason rather than anything darker. I'm hoping

I am surprised it didn't make the national papers.

uk.ask.com/web?o=0&l=dir&qo=serpSearchTopBox&q=Martin+pontig

WickedLazy

I can only imagine the gaslighting that went on.

I've read several accounts from women who term themselves trans widows. It's infuriating reading, to be honest. From their current perspective of distance, they see the way they were manipulated. Not just by the man in question, but by professionals and counsellors as well. I become absolutely filled with rage on their behalf.

And, it always seems to follow the same pattern.

I'm sorry for your experience and thank you for posting. First-hand accounts are incredibly effective when talking about this issue.

Sorry didn't mean to post that, nothing there before 2017 I think.

Well, it confirms the dearth of sources Wicked.

If our Internet browsing history is being monitored my search history is looking decidedly peculiar.

WickedLazy I am so sorry to hear of your experiences. I am glad you can see them now for what they are.

Not sure if his has been posted before here but it is quite interesting and may show you how similar some experiences were, or may not.

naefearty.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/gas-mark-six/

There is some European Law about removing your name from search engines. Can't remember what it is called, will try to find it

It's called the right to be forgotten.

Thanks Xen

Yes, when you google the results say that there are some which have been omitted as per that law.

lass do you have law pages access? I thought his trial might be in the crown court archives on there.
But Yes, it is scary that no reference to this can be found. Sad for his victims too.

Sad? I'd say frightening.

They'll have no idea when he's released!! 😱

I assume they will still be informed by the parole board. Although maybe not.

I think it's sad because it erases the crime he committed against them.

That naefearty article was pretty consistent with my experience with agp.

Read this on another thread, seems relevant.
"The sense of entitlement for men to have their orgasm (which has always been around, lets face it) appears to becoming much more at the expense of a woman rather than with a woman." Only now we have men dressed like woman (not a new thing to be fair), claiming they ARE women, using women (and anyone they can actually), to get their kicks.

Like women*

Italian

That link was chilling.

People who don't know about AGP will often only have experience of transwomen without it. They simply don't get the other side of the coin. Which now seems to be the majority.

I am incredulous to think we are having laws changed on the basis of men's sexual fetish. To accommodate it. Because of ignorance. And, I suspect, institutionalised misogyny.

None of the justification works. Because no crime ever needs to be committed.

“The greatest difficulty people have with cross-dressers, I think, is that cross-dressers wear their fetish, and the gleam in their eyes, however muted by time or habit, the unmistakable presence of a lust being satisfied or a desire being fulfilled in that moment, in your presence, even by your presence, is unnerving.”

As regards AGP, could I just point out the academic papers of Anne Lawrence who is an AGP transexual and an academic who writes and treats on this exact issue.

I too am incensed that the law is being changed to accommodate a sexual fetish, and an extremely misogynistic one at that.

The idea that AGP does not exist is quite simply gaslighting. The most cursory look at freely, widely available online pornography indicates that a very considerable number of men must be interested in this kind of thing.

I have some personal experience of AGP. In my volunteering role I occasionally have contact with men who, abusing the service we provide, take the opportunity of describing to me their fantasies of being made to live as women, dress in exaggeratedly feminine ways and submit to powerful men in various humiliating scenarios.

It seems that for these men, the buzz is twofold: there's all the forced femininization stuff, but the added frission is compelling a female stranger (me, or other female volunteers) to engage with them in a quasi-sexual way, against their will and when they clearly are not enjoying it. I believe that boundary violation is a key part of this disorder.