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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

White women- it's all your fault

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WeldMeDaphne · 19/08/2017 22:27

I will preface this by saying that I am indeed a white woman. And I realise this affords me a lot of privilege.
Among a lot of the rhetoric around the Events unfolding in the US (mostly Charlottesville), I've seen a number of open letters to white women about our complicity in the neo-nazi and white supremacist movement in the US and elsewhere. Clearly those women marching last week on the nazi side were white, but there was a lot of suggestion that those white women not marching but associated with men marching (wives girlfriends etc) were just as culpable as the men wielding torches and assault rifles. I guess I would like some help understanding how this is a white woman issue rather than the white men being responsible for their own actions? I get that one of those pieces said those men are going home to pie cooked by their doting wives but I just feel as though a man who holds those views and has no issue with demonstrating them publically is unlikely to be a caring loving husband?
I am fully prepared to listen to all view points and I totally understand that the people on these marches are white, but they're mostly men, right? Sonhow is this women's fault?

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 29/08/2017 13:48

Anyway I don't think you are posting in good faith, so I'm done here

Actually I think this was pretty much sot on a while back.

MotherPeresA · 30/08/2017 20:54

It's an easy cliche, 'echochamber', but one can see how it works. Accusations are easy though, and a cheap way to defend a position. No real answer was forthcoming and that's telling.

I think it's important to remember that, if someone's beliefs don't seem to match up with prevailing thought in a specialised audience, it doesn't make those beliefs wrong. One is no less of a feminist if some of the ideology fails to resonate, and no one gets to own feminism even though some try to police it. It's easy enough to demonstrate the flaws in a doctrine that stereotypes individuals and creates a false inverse-hierarchy.

Woc are free to reject the voices that don't speak them. They're also free to call out complicity in systematic racism. It's very clear that they need their own space to do this though. Amongst woc, some of the harshest oppression of women occurs. Their voices are weakest though.

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