Son not welcome at sewing workshop

[Cheryl39]

Just tried to sign up for me, my 16 year old daughter and 18 year old son to join a one day sewing workshop and the tutor was very unwelcoming about my son joining. She said the workshops are mainly attended by women and the group as a whole might be uncomfortable talking about women's issues with a young man present. I feel really sad about this and so have not signed up.....is the tutor being discriminatory......what are your thoughts?

We are stronger and better together

Is that you Donald?

Sorry Datun

tellit wanting to be pedantic - Charlotte Newland a woman won the last series of GBSB. A bloke won the previous series (Lorna was robbed) and women won the preceding 2 series.

"We are stronger and better together"

That is seriously debatable!

Charlotte Newland a woman won the last series of GBSB. A bloke won the previous series (Lorna was robbed) and women won the preceding 2 series.

I can't believe they made such a tokenistic gesture in the third series. Whatever happened to the victor being the best person to compete?

That is a very interesting question BertrandRussell......and I would love to hear your thoughts on this...I think perhaps more celebrities as voices of feminism would help.....Emma Watson is wonderful and making a big impact with the he for she campaign.....I would also like to see less aggression and verbal attacking of others for getting involved in the gender debate ...more gentle discussion and sensitive point making, as jumping on every comment a person makes will not win anyone over it just makes us defensive or turns us away.....finally, perhaps we as parents should discuss with our sons how gender inequality is their problem too...how men are damaged by sex role stereotyping and how it brutalises a person to be part of a group that disrepects others.....got to go now....thanks for you question BertrandRussell.

It's school holidays isn't it?

Only 6-7 weeks left of it!

Everyone needs to learn to give and receive No with good grace.

Only 6-7 weeks left of it

Are great minds thinking alike then? :)

I think it's infantile to suggest that young men are not able to see inequalities in this world and are not able to rectify that situation by themselves or as a group. Women are not the gate keepers to inequality, men are.

Everyone needs to learn to give and receive No with good grace.

I'm thinking of taking up cross stitch and this is the first statement I will do. Thanks for the inspiration DJBaggySmalls

You know, there is a different dynamic with a group of women. Chuck in a man, or a teenage boy, and that all changes. Maybe she just knows her customers.

Yet

Blimey,Chery, that's revolutionary stuff!

Glad you remembered the "women hust need to be nicer" trope......

I seem to be the only one a bit at the notion of an 18 year old male feeling all aggrieved that his mum was unable to sign him up for sewing club...
Maybe there's still space in the brew your own beer workshop if you get in quick?

Flogging - you are not. Really you are not.

No Flogging you are not.

Thankfully our local group welcomed my son with open arms. Good luck in your search

100% agre Cheryl39. Strength is in unity. Whilst there are those that seek to stifle inclusion, whether it be racial, religious or gender based, there can never be true equality or understanding of each others position. If we say men can never understand what it means to be a woman we could equally argue that as women we cannot truly understand what it means to be a man. But ultimately we are all members of the human race. We need unity.

She probably meant fitting issues. My womanly body has weird fitting issues like a short crotch and weird bust points. Also at sewing classes women often change into toiles of clothing. I wouldn't be comfortable doing any this with an 16 year old boy in the room. Sorry, she knows her audience.

Everyone needs to learn to give and receive No with good grace

Really? What about all the times women were told NO, and we persisted?
If we all gracefully took no for an answer we still wouldn't have the vote.

It makes a change to the lady's day at the races threads.

All the posters slagging off the course leader for not allowing the OP's son, have you ever been to a sewing class?

In my last one I spent most of changing into half made trousers in my underwear. It would not have been appropriate for a teenage boy to be there and would have made things very uncomfortable for the other participants.

There'a a list of things men could do today that would prove their comittment to feminism- strangely, they seem to be reluctant to do them!

I have. We made cushions, no nakedness involved.

We don't know what type of class it was, so why presume? I imagine OP would have mentioned if it was something involving ladies getting changed in front of each other?