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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Not everyone who menstruates is female.

145 replies

FeralBeryl · 15/07/2017 23:55

I simply have no words Shock
Oh actually I do - What The Fuck?!

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demirose87 · 16/07/2017 13:38

Its unhygienic because it stains your clothes, smells bad and can also leak on chairs. Thats why tampons and pads were invented. Also when Ive leaked accidentally extremely uncomfortable. Not nice for other people to see either.

sticklebrix · 16/07/2017 13:45

Soaking in milk gets bloodstains out. Something to do with the enzymes...

MargeryFenworthy · 16/07/2017 13:49

Of course it's unhygienic. I don't need to see anyone else's blood, menstrual or otherwise. And this point-making is just ludicrous.

SerfTerf · 16/07/2017 13:56

I'm just so sick of reacting to utter drivel.

It's as though society has humoured some lunatics so comprehensively and for so long, it's lost sight of basic facts itself.

DixieFlatline · 16/07/2017 14:01

So seeing someone else's blood is unhygienic? What?

Ollivander84 · 16/07/2017 14:02

My friend is trans. I didn't have a clue when we met, until he showed me his old passport. He was born female and transitioned to male, had his breasts and reproductive organs removed etc. He did tell me the op to create a penis was complex and not very successful so he still had female genitals. If you walked past him in the street you wouldn't have a clue. I don't think he would have had periods anyway due to the hormones (before he had everything removed) but if he did he wouldn't have ever mentioned them, just got on with it

OlennasWimple · 16/07/2017 14:10

Free bleeding is very different to what Cass* is doing here. And I doubt very much that is actual menstrual blood - it looks much more like stage blood to me.

I've been saying for a while now that it's absolutely critical that medical records don't completely erase the birth sex. We need to be able to conduct longitudinal studies, and won't be able to do this if the data is not available. We might find out that the risk of certain diseases is reduced if hormone treatment is taken before a particular age, for example. Or that one type of hormone treatment actually provides a level of protection against certain cancers. I'm thinking of the accidental discovery of Viagra, but I'm sure that there are many other medicines that have turned out to have different benefits and side-effects than expected.

*Cass is the name of the transman in the picture; Toni the Tampon is a character created in order to draw attention to the issues that Cass champions around menstruation

Doubledottvremote · 16/07/2017 14:14

Do men shove tampax up their penis then?

demirose87 · 16/07/2017 14:15

No,seeing it is not unhygienic. It is unhygienic for the person not using hygiene products.

Twinkie1 · 16/07/2017 14:19

DH's trousers looked a bit like that when his haemorrhoids burst! I never got the stain out and had to bin them!

cuirderussie · 16/07/2017 14:32

Well I have been banned from a feminist group for saying that men don't have periods or babies. So nothing surprises me now Sad

Mrskeats · 16/07/2017 14:34

I'm so over all this shit now
Only women bleed. As the song goes

BelligerentGardenPixies · 16/07/2017 16:08

I don't find the sight of menstrual blood disgusting (although I highly doubt this is actually the menstrual blood of this individual) but the notion that males menstruate is offensive and utter nonsense. This is highly tedious drivel.

Salt on first and rubbed into the stain, then into cold salty water. Soak for a couple of hours and then some washing up liquid rubbed in before a normal wash.

Datun · 16/07/2017 16:22

OlennasWimple

What is Cass trying to achieve with this pic?

BeefyCakes · 16/07/2017 16:31

Surely if you want to become a man, you give up your reproductive system.

And surely having periods as a male which you so desperately want to be is damaging to their mental health.

He is woman with short hair, trousers and a shirt on. Gender is bullshit and a social construct.

These kids don't see the reality that they're pidgin holing themselves into neat little boxes.

Women have periods. The language used by planned parenthood, and buzzfeed erases women.

OlennasWimple · 16/07/2017 21:13

Datun - coverage and debate, I'd guess. Which has been at least some way successful if this thread is any measure.

Datun · 16/07/2017 21:35

Today 21:13 OlennasWimple

Datun - coverage and debate, I'd guess. Which has been at least some way successful if this thread is any measure.

But what for?

Datun · 16/07/2017 21:35

I'm not having a go at you, I just don't get what the gains are? The actual gains.

PencilsInSpace · 16/07/2017 21:36

Thinking further, this is a perfect example of why 'gender identity' is a crock of shit.

It's bleeding obvious that this person is female (see what I did there?)

That's why the twitter reaction was so nasty and so very different from reactions to transwomen's more ludicrous assertions.

Same reason that transmen are taken to court for sexual assault because they 'disguised themselves as men' and it's fine for the press to discuss them in those terms, while transwomen rapists must not be misgendered or even referred to as trans.

Same reason nobody appears to be up in arms that the GRA explicitly disallows transmen from inheriting property or peerages that are earmarked for actual men.

Society treats us according to our sex and cares not a jot for how we want to think of ourselves inside our heads. It's just irrelevant. Women are shat on because we are female. Transmen are shat on because they are female. Transwomen are lauded because they are male. You can 'identify as' whatever the fuck you like but it's about as meaningful as having a favourite colour or band in the scheme of things. You will still be identified as female, or male, or black, or white or whatever and treated accordingly.

I don't know when 'identifying as' something became a thing, but I think it's fairly new. I do wonder if it's linked to the amount of time people (especially young people) are spending online, where you can to a large extent be whoever you say you are and there isn't the reality check you get with face-to-face encounters.

'Man', 'woman' no longer have any meaning. They are just empty sounds. Call yourself either, or any one of the other umpteen gender options. It just doesn't matter any more. While you're distracted by that and kept busy pouring all your social justice energy into your 'identity', society will continue to shit on female people and privilege male people.

'Identifying as' something is a huge, navel gazing, waste of time and energy that could be far better spent.

GinaFordCortina · 16/07/2017 21:48

Yes, the picture is of a woman. Yes, the campaign seems misplaced. But Jesus Christ, blood is not disgusting and what the fuck are you doing here if you think it's acceptable to shame someone's bodily functions and call her a bitch to boot? Vile.

Yes and people with 'terf' in their name calling it gross. Terf being trans exclusive RADICAL FEMINIST.

It's not gross. It's incredibly stupid. But it's not gross.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 16/07/2017 22:26

What is Cass trying to achieve with this pic?

Bit of a girly name for a bloke?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 16/07/2017 22:37

As to what Cass is trying to achieve?
No idea.

Do shops refuse to sell sanitary products to trouser- wearing, short- haired people?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 16/07/2017 22:42

coverage and debate, I'd guess. Which has been at least some way successful if this thread is any measure

But as Datun said to what point? Unless Boots et al are actually refusing to sell sanitary products to men this is a non-issue non pareil.

Datun · 16/07/2017 22:54

Woman who identifies as a menstruates and sits on bench with knickers that need salt.

Datun · 16/07/2017 22:55

*identifies as a man!

Not as a menstruates. Although give me time and I can something into that

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