When your own sibling is a transactivist <sigh>

[SerfNTerf]

Boycotting a national transport network because their driver called them "Sir" (they are 6ft 6 with stubble)

Identifying as a "nympho slut chick" on social media and insisting that they are reclaiming the word slut when pulled up on it.

Insisting that they are "100% feminine female biological woman".

Also "reclaiming" the word dyke.

Denouncing all and sundry for transphobia on a daily basis.

They have autism and I'm absolutely CONVINCED this is at the root of this particular obsession/delusion but sadly they've found a whole community online and to some extent in RL who are encouraging it.

And yeah I'm using "they" which doesn't come easy at all. I don't really know what else I can do and still maintain some sort of family relationship. They will one day be my responsibility as our parents had him very late (I'm much older) and they may well never be able to live fully independently. I cannot become estranged but FFS!!

Vestal have sent private message, have wrote enough on a public forum but thank you all who have sent messages of support, I am eternally grateful for some sanity amidst the madness

PS SerfNTerf please accept my apologies for inadvertently offloading on your thread

Usui -

No no Usui offload away

Maybe we need a whole new special shiny thread for supporting gender critical people with trans family members (or is there one?)

Good plan SerfnTern - an even better plan would be to have a real live support group with actual people who are specially trained to actually see through the BS and provide support funded by the NHS - but that will of course never happen as they have bought into it

Oh if only...

and to you

Assignedmentalatbirth, I want your user name it is fantastic!

Thanks Usui.

But you caaaan have it, everybody can.....Choose choose choose: Assignedxxatbirth: ; there are 57+ varieties to choose from. Freedom!

But but but I thought there were over a 100 genders to choose from - are you limiting my choices?

Apologies for double post, forgot to add:

www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/a-nearly-complete-glossary-of-gender-identities-for-your-next-ce/

PS List is till growing, maybe when there is one for every human on the planet the list will cease to exist as the form will be too long as it would contain approx 7.6b choices

Why isn't mine included? Oppressor bastards!

Who are they? Ah, the TERFS

Yeah I've read similar... "there are as many genders as there are people"

OK so gender is personality then?

Do we need a separate toilet or sporting category for every single person then? One way to ensure everybody comes first I suppose

There are as many genders as there are people in the way it is being proliferated. But when it comes to trans-people, there are only two.

Both those ideologies are going to collide.

You can't be gender fluid, changing your mind on a daily basis, whilst at the same time being 'born this way'.

Except that as anyone can identify as anything, at any point and for any duration, you probably can.

Has anyone tried accusing a transactivist of transphobia?

"How can you say that there are only two genders who need toilets!? There are infinite genders!"

And so on and so forth.

I'd be interested in what happens if you do that on the internet and they don't know you are not a (fellow?) TRA.

On one site a TRA was asked to define a woman and they came back with the usual novel length tirade of everything they had to put up with which is why they need access to women's toilets.

And they were told to check their gender dysphoria privilege.

And they were told to check their gender dysphoria privilege.

Gender dysphoria privilege? Comedy gold. Everyone who has real problems is "privileged" now, are they?

How did they react?

Spluttering outrage. But if we are privileged for being able to have abortions, which I have actually read...!

Spluttering outrage.

Predictably. I guess a humble "I am so bad and wrong and sorry, of course you are right" is only to be expected from female allies who upon trying to educate something discover the other person holds even more extreme(ly insane) views.

But if we are privileged for being able to have abortions, which I have actually read...!

Not in comparison to women in Ireland, I suppose, but as opposed to males?

Males don't ever need abortions, but why let reality get in the way? After all, some males want pap smears, too, instead of just being happy they don't need them.

... educate someone. It really is too late.

I was considering trying this approach on my local feminist group, who has drunk the kool aid.

Tell them, when they talk about their newborn niece or something, that assigning a gender to newborns is literal violence, and anyway, there is no such thing as a female body, so how do they know to assign her female gender? And how did they not immediately go no contact with their horrid sibling who let the doctors do this to the innocent babe.

Most of the trans allies I've met manage to live quite normal lives in their free time, gendering of babies and strangers included, so pointing out their hypocrisy might be fun.

Though I'd have to pretend that I am converted to the righteous cause of gender idiocy. Don't know if I can stomach that.

Though I'd have to pretend that I am converted to the righteous cause of gender idiocy. Don't know if I can stomach that.

You'd be doing it for the cause though. Sometimes it does take a person to follow this (non)logic to its conclusion for other people to think hang on.

My darling niece turns 18 soon and will start taking t as soon as she is able. She has mental health issues and is vulnerable.

I've told her I'm a gender critical feminist, and am sometimes called a TERF. And that I love her. We don't speak as often as we used to.

I love the idea of a support group for family members who are gender critical (I'm another one here, with daughter who thinks she's a boy) - but I just don't think it could work in real life. 4thwavenow and transgendertrend are great resources but a helpline/support network would be amazing. Sadly, all we have is Mermaids. The need for anonymity would be so great. But if anyone could manage it - please let me know!

ladyballs and ghostlyghoulie

It's one thing if you are fully on board with the trans-ideology, but if you are gender critical and it is happening in your family, it must be agonising.