All gender toilets

[MissBax]

Bit of a lurker on the fem chat usually but just wondered people's opinions on this.
At my university today I noticed they'd changed the women's toilets on one floor to "all gender" toilets. At first I thought ah ok that's not a big deal, there must be someone in the uni who is trans and that's why they've done it. But then when I came out of the toilets I noticed that the men's toilet and disabled toilet hadn't been changed. I can't understand the rationale of changing only the women's toilets? Or am I being overly sensitive? I'm not sure how I feel about it...

Mind you even putting make up on could get creepy.

I've changed laddered tights, tops with stains on, adjusted bra straps in front of the sinks (usually where the cubicles are too small to manouevre or there is a queue for the loos). Can't really do any of that in front of men, particularly colleagues that I would then need to go and sit next to in the office

I was called an ignorant bigot yesterday on a forum I've been a member of for years, all for saying that schools need seperate male and female toilets and changing rooms. I also pointed out the danger of letting self identified MtF people into female spaces, I was given a lecture on my incorrect facts goadingly called CIS and then regaled with the story of how this particular trans person had been welcomed with open arms onto a female basketball team.
Everone else on the thread ( about gender neutral loos in schools) said I was wrong and disgusting for suggesting that boys would sexually harass girls/ try to film them under toilet doors etc.
I also got the 'born in the wrong body' narrative and how hateful I was for not being sympathetic and understanding

People can't see or don't believe what is going on .

For goodness sakes. So teenage boys are now so enlightened that they won't act silly around the girls in school, just all of a sudden everyone including perverts are going to start behaving well in these situations?

Bela just wait until it affects them or their child, you will be able to say told you so, not that that will be much comfort.

Everyone is bending over backwards to appear right on and women and girls are being thrown under the bus.

When I post about this on fb noone responds.

I had a row on an ADHD "support group" on FB yesterday. A woman had posted that she'd taken her 10 yo DS into the Ladies with her and got a lot of evil looks. Loads of people posted to say how dare they, and that they would continue to take their 8/9/10 yo boys to the Ladies to keep them safe.

We were away at the weekend and spent a lot of time queuing for toilets in various places. My DD is 10 and also has ADHD. She has sensory issues that mean she doesn't get the urge to go until she's really desperate.

We joined a queue in a motorway services that came out of the door and round the corner. She looked really worried and I was concerned she couldn't hold on. If she was smaller I could have got away with barging her to the front with apologies but that doesn't go down well at 10. There was a queue for the 2 disabled toilets consisting of people with walking sticks and mothers holding babies, so no option there.

In the queue in front of us were a number of women with large boys. When I say large, they were taller than my DD, who at 140cm is average for her age.

I pointed out on FB that by taking their DSs to the Ladies they were causing issues for other people's DDs. Apparently it wasn't safe for their 10 yos to use the mens. I pointed out that I also had DSs, who used the mens perfectly well and was accused of thinking I was the perfect parent . I gave up and left the group. They had absolutely no clue.

Quite aside from my DD there are so many female issues that cause urgency. Pregnancy, menopause, prolapse - there could have been a large proportion of women in that queue having issues with waiting. When it's busy I always take DD into my cubicle but I noticed that all these boys who were incapable of going to the mens by themselves each had a separate cubicle.None of them went in with mum.

I was wrong and disgusting for suggesting that boys would sexually harass girls/ try to film them under toilet doors etc.

Do these people not remember 13 year old boys?

And now 13 year old boys have access to smart phones with cameras and internet and are far more likely to have been exposed to porn.

I totally disagree with that!!

user - what do you disagree with?