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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Everyday Feminism may be closing!

151 replies

Terfing · 06/05/2017 22:20

everydayfeminism.com/donate-to-ef/

Is it bad that I'm slightly happy about this?

(Obviously, I'm not happy about people losing their jobs - except maybe Riley)

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Datun · 31/08/2017 15:09

Haha Maisy you should so offer yourself as their bio writer !

And definitely put this in your application

"...for a truely postmodern sense of contemporary mindfullness".

They'll bite your arm off.

RebelRogue · 31/08/2017 15:11

She should thank her lucky stars she wasn't born in a country where even things are gendered,and grammar lessons demand classification. I can see her with tears streaming down her face,hands shaking,biting her lip while agonising whether a table identifies as female,male or neutral and the complete unfairness of having to write such hateful words. GrinGrin

Titanz · 31/08/2017 15:12

LITERALLY SHAKING

MaisyPops · 31/08/2017 15:23

Titanz Datun
I could BE an EF writer (deep breath. Gets in the zone)

Maisy is a creative and open minded feminist cis-woman who, despite being sexuality non-conforming, lives with her cis-gendered, male husband. She is passionate about feminism and equality for all and seeks to empower those around her to challenge oppressive patriarchal, heteronormative, anglocentric structures which seek to limit and constain minority groups. When she's not reading grassroots feminist and activist literature (shit my friends share on social media), she can be found lurking at independent coffee houses where she is a long standing investor in 3rd world enterprise ventures (i buy fairtrade tea and coffee). She is a freelance writer ( Aka I post my own shit on social media sometimes) who enjoys exploring the complexities if life as a successful professional cis woman as well as sustaining non-binary hobbies.

Aka. Maisy is a married woman who has gone both ways over time. Maisy is a feminist who does much the same as anyone else and isn't that special.

MaisyPops · 31/08/2017 15:24

Strikethrough fail Sad

Maisy is a creative and open minded feminist cis-woman who, despite being sexuality non-conforming, lives with her cis-gendered, male husband. She is passionate about feminism and equality for all and seeks to empower those around her to challenge oppressive patriarchal, heteronormative, anglocentric structures which seek to limit and constain minority groups. When she's not reading grassroots feminist and activist literature shit my friends share on social media , she can be found lurking at independent coffee houses where she is a long standing investor in 3rd world enterprise ventures i buy fairtrade tea and coffee . She is a freelance writer Aka I post my own shit on social media sometimes who enjoys exploring the complexities if life as a successful professional cis woman as well as sustaining non-binary hobbies

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 31/08/2017 15:25

You are worryingly good at that maisy

MaisyPops · 31/08/2017 15:27

rufus
Maybe I've missed my calling in life.

I could write articles on 'gender politics in aldi: how the traffic flow of trolleys is a metaphor for institutional oppression'.
Grin

SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2017 15:29

Brave and beautiful, maisie! Grin

Ereshkigal · 31/08/2017 15:29

That would be brilliant. Do it and send it to EF! Grin

SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2017 15:29

sorry, maisy

MadamMinacious · 31/08/2017 15:29

f you want to be a vegan feminist, great! But there’s no need to resort to inaccurate and harmful tropes about biology and reproductive organs to make a point. "

Now there's a bit of flimmery bollocks if ever there was some.

Everyday Feminism is made up of a load of spoilt brats who have never had a real worry in their lives. If they had they wouldn't spend such an inordinate amount of time navel gazing and working out how they can be offended today or if not, whose behalf they can offended on.

The fact they give that Riley person a platform to air his suspect views is reason enough to shut them down. I was fairly happy when this thread was started as Everyday Feminism had been getting on my last nerve for some time, the fact it's dragging on has depressed me somewhat I may have to change my pronouns to 'sadsack' to reflect this.

On the plus side more parody and criticism from the people on here may continue and that's fine with me.

Titanz · 31/08/2017 15:34

I feel like we have been infiltrated here. Are you suuuure you're not one of them

Everyday Feminism may be closing!
MaisyPops · 31/08/2017 15:35

I feel like starting a new thread 'articles that never made it into EF (and other similar sites)

Why the Teletubbies were right: a report on how genitals have no place in someone's decisions on a their sex life.

When no doesn't mean no: why trying to force lesbians into accepting dick isn't actually coercion. It's liberation.

MaisyPops · 31/08/2017 15:38

Titanz
Cross post. Love the image.

Definitely not one of them.

Feminist here who believes radical and controversial things like biology matters!!Shock I'm pro trans rights and acceptance but not pro-eroding womens rights. I think Riley and his 'lesbian' relationship is a joke. It's a heterosexual relationship but one is a dude in a dress.

Datun · 31/08/2017 15:40

Maisy

Brilliant. Just work the words yoga, privilege and tremble in, and you're done!

loopsdefruit · 31/08/2017 15:42

madam While I think it's perfectly reasonable to find their approach confusing or unhelpful (I personally don't but we're all different) you cannot actually say that they've "never had a real worry in their lives."

I'm sure at least one person on staff has described themselves as a survivor, which suggests some form of sexual or other abuse, and most are POC so face the difficulties of being POC in the US.

The thing with self-ID is that you don't sit around trying to figure out what you are/where you fit, you just are and then you tell people.

MadamMinacious · 31/08/2017 15:42

@MaisyPops I am a little afraid of your EverydayFeminist writing skills. Have you been practising? squints at Maisy

Expecting someone on minimum wage to give a shiny shite about your pronoun is the ultimate in privilege

And this. Absolutely this. What a load of self-centred crap they spout.

MaisyPops · 31/08/2017 15:45

Challenge accepted datun

Intersectional relaxation: how a queer, sex-positive activist crowdfunded a grassroots community project to challenge privilege through yoga and rural bengali/scottish fusion cooking.

Datun · 31/08/2017 15:47

HahahahahahaHA!

Brilliant.
Grin

Titanz · 31/08/2017 15:53

I for one would like to indulge in this bengali/scottish fusion cooking.

What we talking, like, Haggis Dal?

MadamMinacious · 31/08/2017 15:54

madam While I think it's perfectly reasonable to find their approach confusing or unhelpful (I personally don't but we're all different) you cannot actually say that they've "never had a real worry in their lives."

Well, I can say it as I did say it. But ok, I'll concede that 'survivor' may mean they have experienced sexual assault although I'm not inclined to label myself that way despite having been raped in the past and subject to sexual assault like many women. However, I do think that the level of introspection, the need to label absolutely everything and the dogged approach to discovering new ways of being oppressed suggests that their real worries aren't taking up too much of their time.

I personally don't find their need to pigeonhole everyone and find neat little dynamo labels for themselves and everyone else remotely constructive. In fact, I think it very much narrows who you can be. Worse than that they expect the world around them to kowtow to whatever special way of being addressed they desire today. I have to admit this DOES suggest a certain superficiality to their lives and personalities to me and the articles on that site do little to dissuade me from that point of view.

MaisyPops · 31/08/2017 16:02

Titanz
Haggis dahl.
Lentils and paneer poached in whiskey and irn bru.

I agree madam. They may have experience of abuse but the way they almost stick it on themselves as a label is quite superficial. It's almost like they feel that it's the magic star that moves them up the oppressed league tables.

VestalVirgin · 31/08/2017 18:50

I'm sure at least one person on staff has described themselves as a survivor, which suggests some form of sexual or other abuse, and most are POC so face the difficulties of being POC in the US.

Or perhaps they were just misgendered. Which, you know, is literal violence.
They don't seem to have much empathy for the lesbians they want to persuade to let themselves be raped by transwomen.

Admittedly, it is possible that they just stuffed their real worries into a dark corner of their mind and never think about them. Or that perhaps it is suppressed memories of trauma cause them to be so misogynist.

But there obviously is no conscious thinking about real problems.

I recently saw a rather nice post on tumblr where a transwoman wrote about all the things that radical feminists did NOT do. (Said transwoman was rational enough to acknowledge that all the violence against transwomen is perpetrated by males) Anyone who thinks about the real problems for about five minutes would immediately see this, and never, ever, ever, ever again address any death threats to "terfs".

cuirderussie · 01/09/2017 07:31

What will Rapey J Dennis do when EF is closed? I worry about him, I mean zheee.

WhereYouLeftIt · 01/09/2017 18:41

Haggis dahl.

I like the sound of that.