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Trans- kids... so many batshit parents? WTAF?

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Railgunner1 · 27/04/2017 06:58

Stuff that i often see on fb is beyond disturbing.

People are transing toddlers because they put teatowels on their heads...

I sort of understand confused teenagers with MH issues under the influence of youtube, but ADULTS?

Or is this a new trend when you have a child not of the sex you preferred?

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Soubriquet · 27/04/2017 07:01

It's "cool" to be a trans parent

Shows how progressive you are and oh so tolerant

IMO, just makes them look like a twat

shockshockhorror · 27/04/2017 07:05

It must be incredibly uncommon to transition your toddler though, yes it's ridiculous and very damaging - but how many people are actually doing it?

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Railgunner1 · 27/04/2017 07:09

All these "lived as the opposite sex since they were 2"... Maybe its more trendy in America, not quite yet here, but coming soon?

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shockshockhorror · 27/04/2017 07:16

I hope not! I don't get it. My son likes having his nails painted, wearing jewellery and dresses, not at all sporty or rough-and tumble, fairly quiet. I hate the thought that other children like him might be sent down that route... I think it's unlikely though, most people have enough common sense.

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Railgunner1 · 27/04/2017 07:24

This... shit just got real

gendermom.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/my-daughter-has-an-erection/

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00100001 · 27/04/2017 07:31

So odd that all these parents of "transfer" toddlers are just reinforcing social stereotypes.

Oh my child likes pink clothes..That's proof they're a girl.

My child likes diggers this child is a boy

Hmm

Genuine dysmorphic people are rare.

A day a fucking 2 year old boy who likes long hair shouldn't be told he is a girl because of that.

Fruitcocktail6 · 27/04/2017 07:32

That article is disturbing, the comments more so.

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Railgunner1 · 27/04/2017 07:34

Its maybe a mother always wanted a girl, and got a boy who likes pink... Voilá! Its a GIRL!

And why the heck diggers are male, but penises aren't?

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numberseven · 27/04/2017 07:35

From the comments:

Mother finds purpose in life and validation in blogging about her special 5 yr old son’s penis

Indeed.

SisterMoonshine · 27/04/2017 07:36

It just shows how ingrained and how much damage gender stereotyping does Sad

SmurfPants · 27/04/2017 07:43
Angry

That is FUCKED UP

sleepingdragons · 27/04/2017 07:46

When I was a child I wore my hair short. I hated pink and dolls, liked wearing jeans and climbing trees.

Everyone who didn't know me thought I was a boy until I was about 12 and grew my hair.

I wasn't a boy, I was a girl.and I am now an adult woman.

Mums like her terrify me. Would I have ended up confused aboit who I was if I was growing up these days? As well aa correcting people who thought I was a boy would I have had to deal with people suggesting I was trans and making the possibility of changing sex seem like an easy option, a simple choice?

Would I have been at risk of being influenced to thinking delaying puberty was a good idea? Might I now be sterile and not have my two wonderful DC?

upperlimit · 27/04/2017 07:55

I agree it's fucked up. And the idea that someone would do this to signal their progressive attitude when it is built on the most narrow and proscriptive ideas on gender is a painful irony.

But I don't see that it is happening everywhere. I certainly haven't seen this.

MaryJBilge · 27/04/2017 08:05

Does anyone know of any studies that look at the attitudes towards gender roles of people surrounding trans people when they were growing up?

I've not worded that well, but I mean, are you more likely to be transed as a child if you grow up in a community with firm and inflexible ideas about gender roles?

SisterMoonshine · 27/04/2017 08:09

That'd be interesting Mary. There have been quotes from parents saying "well at least he's not gay". And look at the gender roles of Iran!
There could be something in that theory.

sticklebrix · 27/04/2017 08:09

I find that blog very sad, railgunner. So much oversharing and investment in the child being transgender. So many restrictive expectations about the child's future.

It would be incredibly difficult for the child to just get on with being a feminine boy in such an environment. Awful.

olderthanyouthink · 27/04/2017 08:24

I've recently realised I must be a man or at least gender fluid.

When I was a kid I loved my race cars, climbing trees, Shooting games, tool kits etc. (We can ignore that I also love my baby dolls and princess dresses?)

As an adult I do a typically male job, I wear men's shirts regularly, love power tools and DIY, can ride motorcycles.

Shame on my parents for not turning me into a man so I wouldn't have to be called a tomboy or be told "but your a girl". Angry

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Railgunner1 · 27/04/2017 08:45

I really must be born in a wrong body. I often have to shop in men's sections to find the clothes and shoes in sizes that actually fit Confused

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Ferrynice · 27/04/2017 08:53

That is the most fucked up thing I have read in a long time!
The word erection when talking about a 5 year old is so wrong and blogging about it ffs.
That poor kid.

FishInAWetSuitAndFlippers · 27/04/2017 09:04

There is a certain kind of parent who thrives on the attention they generate for themselves.

They do the tv appearances and interviews and tell everyone about it and make demands and kick off when they aren't met and actively look for discrimination where there is none.

These are the ones everyone hears about.

A lot of parents, like me, are just scared for their child, they don't want attention, they don't want their child to feel this way, but don't know what to do.

I saw on Mermaids (before I got kicked off) scared parents coming on to seek advice. Instead of being told that it's ok for their child to play and wear whatever they were being given advice on transitioning, how to gain blockers faster, told that it's abusive not to allow blockers and hormones etc.

I do feel for a lot of parents who are hearing all this trans stuff, recognising signs in their child, going to the first place they come across online to ask for help and being effectively bullied into transing their child.

Datun · 27/04/2017 09:36

Hi Fish.

I agree. The ideology is like a snowball rolling downhill and picking up more and more people for more and more reasons. Meanwhile non invasive help is getting more and more scarce.

I wish this would go back into the medical category of issues, not a cultural one.

There has been a study in America of the parents of trans children, which indicates a definite social economic element. (I'm not talking about you here fish).

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/researcher-transgender-children-allow-non-traditional-parents-to-perform-stereotypical-parenting-roles/#comments

VestalVirgin · 27/04/2017 11:41

Or is this a new trend when you have a child not of the sex you preferred?

This is actually a very old trend.

The sworn virgins of ... I think it was Albania, were women whose parents didn't have sons. Since someone would have to care for their old moms, (and women had next to no rights) they were allowed to work and earn money like males, but required to swear eternal virginity. (What happened if a man raped them, I don't know, probably the village elders killed the woman, as usual).

They couldn't ever go back from wearing men's clothes and pretending to be men, but at least they didn't have to get life-shortening hormones and surgery.

With growing equality of the sexes, this was done less frequently, and there's only a few sworn virgins alive now.

Now, the same thing becomes popular again - women are now allowed to have sex, but due to this not being supported by patriarchy cannot inherit land (see English exemption from trans laws for inheritance by males), and are still treated as female (raped, molested, and so on) by men ... oh, and to be taken at all seriously have to mutilate their bodies. (Which means that being theoretically allowed to have sex isn't as great as one might think - most people aren't attracted to mutilated bodies.)

Igneococcus · 27/04/2017 11:43

And now dogs too transgender dog
My local paper completely missing the difference between intersex and trans.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 27/04/2017 11:45

Special pants for girls with penises - as in boys?!

My uncle is a professor of neurosurgery so knows a fair bit about the brain. Do not get him started on this, he can rant for hours

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