The Gender Critical Manifesto

[venusinscorpio]

Let's put a list of salient points together about what the issues are with the trans agenda. It will be a useful resource.

Excellent article, nodecorum, and good to see it in Huff - which I thought had lost the plot entirely recently.

I wrote to "More or Less" on Radio4 to see if they would investigate crime stats and the effect of trans on them. Probably wont hear anything but I thought it was worth a shot.

I wrote to "More or Less" on Radio4 to see if they would investigate crime stats and the effect of trans on them. Probably wont hear anything but I thought it was worth a shot.

Is that raw data even obtained in the first place ? I wouldn't have thought so.

cadnowyllt

well that's kind of the point I'm hoping they would make.

Did you attach a handful of names (Davina ayrton, Jessica winfield, katy brannen) to the letter? Just to nudge them in the right direction...

No

As a side note
Interesting stats taken from government source:

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-statistics-2015

I know you have withdrawn that article Miffer, but I read it and it just made me angry at what that poor woman had to go through and how much the trans lobby were glibly appropriating it just to support their crap argument.

Thank you for reading and for the kind words

Miranda Yardley is someone who describes themselves as transsexual and is very supportive of radical feminists concerned about the potential violation of women's rights by transactivism. Miranda would be a good example of what some transactivists would call Truscum. She's good to follow on Twitter. Also the amount of hate and abuse she gets for saying she knows she is not a real woman would make your eyes water. I have absolutely no issue with using she/her pronouns for Miranda out of courtesy and respect because I know that she respects womens space and boundaries.

Blaire White (YouTuber) is also regarded as truscum and is an interesting character. She describes herself as an MRA, makes videos criticising feminism, black lives matter, and what she calls "social justice warriors", but she is absolutely clear that she is biologically male and that transactivists should not be insisting on everyone adopting their ideology and language. Her point is that she is fed up of everyone co-opting her very real and distressing experience of dysphoria and politicising it. She does live debates with transactivists that are often very interesting. You can find them on Youtube.

Great article NoDecorum and judging by the comments it's been well received. Thanks for speaking up.

NoDecorum great article in Huffington Post.

Aaargh I'm so behind! I'll put a good couple of hours in on Friday.

The formatting on this wiki is an arsehole. Don't worry if you post something and it looks a mess, just get the info down. I'm happy to delve into the code and tidy up from time to time.

We've got a link on the harm to children page to an article from American College of Pediatricians which I'm not sure we should include.

What does everybody think about including right wing sources?

My own view is that I'm not totally against it as long as they are credible and respectable. ACP are neither, unfortunately. And I think if we can find just as good sources that are not right wing we should use those instead.

I also think if we are including right wing sources we need to be upfront about it, like hands across the aisle: For the first time, progressive and conservative women have come together to challenge the notion that gender is the same as sex. We are radical feminists, lesbians, Christians and conservatives that are tabling our ideological differences to stand in solidarity against gender identity legislation, which we have come to recognize as the erasure of our own hard-won civil rights. As the Hands Across the Aisle Coalition, we are committed to working together, rising above our differences, and leveraging our collective resources to oppose the transgender agenda.

Thank you so much everybody, it's really taking shape! It's lovely to be working on a project with you lot

By right wing, do you mean small c conservative in the family values sense? Their reasons aren't my reasons for having issues with the trans agenda, although I don't know if I'm left or right wing any more! (the whole wings system seems to have gone a bit tits up of late)

I think there are potentially some useful references embedded in the ACP list of concerns, but it may be better to link directly to those where they're credible. Someone more knowledgeable than me will need to assess credibility though

Stonewall have released their manifesto.

www.stonewall.org.uk/our-work/campaigns/uk-general-election-2017

Roguebiscuit
That Video is horrific . I couldn't even get to the end. Its good ammunition though and seems genuine
pencils

I wondered if we should post it on the wiki in relation to the straw men and lies section because 'Transactivists claim that men who identify as transgender never break the law or hurt anyone.'
What do people think?

Hey Lily I've just been having a look and I see you are there. Under the Male Violence section maybe?

I just deleted some superfluous example pages, I hope that was ok.

ooo and we should probably add a page that examines the transwomen who say they are NOT women and the backlash they receive.

...and people who de-trans.

pencils
Gave the acpeds article a quick skim. Seems like an articulate summary of some of our fears. However understand reservations of aligning ourselves with this organisation.. so I would go with not including this particular link and finding good non 'right wing ' sources. Or, as you say, be open about the fact that we dont agree with much of the right wing value base accept for opposing the trans agenda.

I called the page "Transwomen who De-Trans" which I think is a bit sloppy but I can't think of a better title and I want to get on with it. Any suggestions welcome.

BMacklin
I just deleted some superfluous example pages, I hope that was ok.
Of course its ok !! we are all working together on this. I agree video posted by rogue should go under male violence section. Will see what others think then post link on page or otherwise... Also agree re detransing section - great idea there are loads of stories out there. I posted a link to some about a month ago I think it was on the resources page originally. I will try and find it again and add .

I changed it to "Gender Critical Trans and De-Trans" in the end.

Excellent Lily! And thanks for the feedback.

The video is a tough watch. If we do post it we should put a trigger warning. Also I that I notice it's the second video that that lady has made so the other one might be worth adding too.

We should probably do research into some of the people in to fact check and make sure its all genuine, so when I get time maybe I'll google the names she lists in the blurb - or do you think that's overkill?

Bmacklin
Agree - I was thinking the same thing re trigger warning. No I dont think googling some of the names is overkill- simply as there's so much rubbish out there and we dont want to be posting stuff that is untrue. Though my female instinct ( !!) tells me its genuine. You only have to look at previous posts on these threads about sex offenders 'living as women' in the UK to know that such an extent of violence in a country as large as the US is entirely possible.