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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women in certain industries.

167 replies

Tonka4 · 16/03/2017 11:46

Just wondering what your thoughts are on certain industries being male dominated in terms of jobs? I'm thinking mainly science, technology and engineering industries. Is it sexism at play?

There is a follow up question to this.

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Bluntness100 · 16/03/2017 13:14

So I don't think it's sexism at play to be honest. I think it has everything to do with the choices men and women make.

Bluntness100 · 16/03/2017 13:15

Sorry that was meant to be the quote of the op saying he didn't care. Clearly having a whole concentration fail today..😂😂😂

squishysquirmy · 16/03/2017 13:18

Don't worry bluntness, computers and words and stuff can be very confusing to our lady brains. We should stick to knitting kittens instead. Wink.

Tonka4 · 16/03/2017 13:21

Listen, men and women are free to make what ever choices they feel like in this country.

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ayahuasca · 16/03/2017 13:22

"Listen," 😂

Bluntness100 · 16/03/2017 13:22

But sometimes they don't get equal choices do they?

And good point squishy 😁

squishysquirmy · 16/03/2017 13:24
Grin How do you do that crying with laughter ayahuasca?
PoochSmooch · 16/03/2017 13:25

Listen!!

Where does a mansplainer get his water?

From a well, actually...

Is your next point about how the pay gap is explained by women not wanting to be paid as much as men? I'm learning so much Grin

Tonka4 · 16/03/2017 13:25

Of course the word 'listen' was terribly sexist of me. I do apologise.

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Tonka4 · 16/03/2017 13:26

If you want to get on the pay gap myth I'm happy to talk.

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squishysquirmy · 16/03/2017 13:27

The pay gap is a good thing, Pooch.
We would just fritter all that extra money away on silly things like bonnets, shoes for baby rabbits and tampons, our lady brains cannot cope with money. Best to let the men bravely take charge! Grin

ChocChocPorridge · 16/03/2017 13:27

Have you had a chance to look at those studies yet Tonka - about the current bias towards men?

Do you have anything to say about that?

FlaviaAlbia · 16/03/2017 13:27

PoochSmooch Grin

squishysquirmy · 16/03/2017 13:28

We know you're happy to talk Tonka.

Knifegrinder · 16/03/2017 13:28

Well, tonka, could you supply live links to your peer-reviewed neurological research on men and women being 'wired differently'? Or, on the other hand, you could read Cordelia Fine's Delusions of Gender. You know, by someone with actual higher qualifications in psychology and neuroscience, rather than an outraged keyboard warrior with a lot of gendered preconceptions about women 'naturally' gravitating to unprestigious caring jobs because they're 'nurturing'. Are they also 'naturally' attracted to cleaning and waitressing?

LeninaCrowne · 16/03/2017 13:29

Sexism - yes in mixed schools. Year 11 I was encouraged to aspire to do 'A' level physics at an all girls school, but when I moved to a mixed school due to a house move, discouraged, as I would be the only girl in the class, and told I would fail. (I did it anyway and passed).
University - some sexist lecturers (Brunel University Lecturer in Production Engineering kept banging on, in a public lecture to encourage sixth formers to choose engineering, about how women were more suited to boring mundane assembly work and it was cheaper to employ women than have machines. Workplace - some sexist colleagues. I'll never forget an MOD official who kept slamming the door to stop me doing my job, as he said "I was a just a bloody girl".

IAmAmy · 16/03/2017 13:29

Listen Grin

He's just so keen for you to listen
But no one's listening
And when you put it all together
There's the model of a charmless man

squishysquirmy · 16/03/2017 13:31

can he fuck, knife.
[awaits meaningless study of half a dozen monkeys playing with dolls and toy cars]

Knifegrinder · 16/03/2017 13:32

Of course, Cordelia Fine is a nom de plume of Mike 'Butch as Anything' Smith, because no fluffy female brain could take time off from admiring kitten gifs and radiating 'nurture' to, you know, do research and write books. Apart from me, but I probably bought my doctorate from the internet college of fluffiness, and write Mills and Boon.

Tonka4 · 16/03/2017 13:32

Does a figure of speech really get under your skin that much?

I'd speak like that to a man, would you take issue with that?

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IAmAmy · 16/03/2017 13:33

I met him in a crowded forum
Where people usually post with decorum
He posted about STEM and so began, the story of a charmless man
Educated the un-feminist way, he knows there is no real gap in pay
I think he'd like to have been a pilot one day
Because nature obviously made him that way

Tonka4 · 16/03/2017 13:34

www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/02/men-women-brains-wired-differently

Of course, I'm sure you'll discount this reasearch as it doesn't fit your narrative.

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ChocChocPorridge · 16/03/2017 13:35

I'll read yours if you'll read mine Tonka

squishysquirmy · 16/03/2017 13:36

We're laughing at you because you lack the self awareness required to realise how predictable you are.
The words you use are not new to us, we have heard all your "arguments" before. You embody a cliche. That's what's funny about the words you choose.

FlaviaAlbia · 16/03/2017 13:36

LeninaCrowne I had a really fantastic computer science teacher, it was him who pushed me and encouraged me as there was only 2 girls in my class and only me in my a level one. He was brilliant.

Then the careers teacher who was an arse tried to tell me I'd never make it because I wasn't doing a level maths.

10 years as a software engineer says otherwise Grin