Jenni Murray "Changing sex can't make a real woman"

[Freddorika]

'Those who have lived as men, with all the privileges that entails, do not have the shared experience of growing up female.'

Brave and interesting article in the Times.

Link here behind pay wall I think

IPSO - Independent Press Standards Organisation

I know someone who was a journalist at the Telegraph, IPSO complaints are taken seriously.

www.ipso.co.uk/make-a-complaint/

I think this is the Andrea Darling being referred to:

Durham, Social Sciences

I'm not saying that her research topic isn't important, but at best misleading to have it published with the leading picture being of a male sexual offender. And at worst, a rather sick grab at publicity when the actual news story has nothing at all to do with her actual research. Or does she really think that male sexual offenders who commit rapes and may or may not later transition have anything to do with the vexed question of why some females commit child sexual offences? I'd like to see her try and justify that one at her viva..............

Actually, I'll be cynical -- a first-year grad student was offered a chance to get her name in the Telegraph. I don't think she was very worried about anything else, frankly....................

Press guidelines are different though - they don't require a GRC.

The CPS guidelines say that the courts have to use the preferred identity. The press are only allowed to report from the court what is said in court and not what happens around it. If someone is subsequently found guilty though, then they have a field day. They do seem to be sticking to the letter with this rape case quite obviously, and it does seem to be widely reported.

The press are only allowed to report from the court what is said in court and not what happens around it.

I'm sure I read that Hauxwell was charged as a man.

From another Telegraph article:

The string of sex assaults took place in the Newton Aycliffe area in 2001 and 2002. Hauxwell, who was born in Darlington and still has links to the town, had been charged with the offences in 2015 under the name Craig John Hauxwell.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/06/gender-sex-offender-bbc-crimewatch-appeal-attacker-could-living/

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/crime/bbcs-crimewatch-hunts-sex-offender-9978554

Daily record clearly says convicted as a woman - no idea how reliable it is.

Hmm - some discrepancy there

I've seen it quoted on here that trans people offend at the same rate as their birth sex (realise I have no idea how to word that without compromising my beliefs or misgendering) but I can't find any stats. Does anyone know where that came from?

Editors' code of practice is here.

See clause 12 on discrimination:
i) The press must avoid prejudicial or pejorative reference to an individual's, race, colour, religion, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation or to any physical or mental illness or disability.

ii) Details of an individual's race, colour, religion, gender identity, sexual orientation, physical or mental illness or disability must be avoided unless genuinely relevant to the story.

I complained to the BBC about their reporting of the crimes committed by Lauren Jeska, and this is what it all seems to boil down to. Gender identity won't be mentioned if at all possible, not even when it contradicts Clause 1 of the Code regarding accuracy.

But if you are specifically, as an academic, writing with authority on the rise of sexual crimes committed by women, and you use someone who is a serial rapist and committed the offences with his penis, then, um, this is going to be a false representation of statistics? Which is discriminatory against women?

The court list for Durham says Craig John.

www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/crown-court-lists-hearing-results.php

Sorry - link did not copy the search.

terrylene I'm totally confused by the whole thing.

I thought that only males could be convicted for rape in UK law?

Me too.

CPS says this: Transgender suspects

As set out in the Code for Crown Prosecutors, prosecutors must apply the principles of the European Convention on Human Rights, in accordance with the Human Rights Act 1998, at each stage of a case. Prosecutors are also bound by the duties set out in the Equality Act 2010. This is especially relevant when making decisions that impact on transgender suspects. Prosecutors should address suspects according to their presented gender by using the correct gender and pronouns in all documentation.

Prosecutors reviewing sexual offence cases involving suspects who are transgender need to be aware of, and sensitive to, all the relevant circumstances and should ensure the police supply as much information as possible in order to properly inform their decision making. For example prosecutors will need to know the suspects position in relation to the Gender Recognition Act 2004 (GRA).

But the case in the crown court was under the name of Craig John.

So the newspapers should not be saying he is a woman?

This from Andrea Darling's article:

'Studies of the experiences of sexual abuse victims have suggested that more serious long-term harm for victims results from sexual abuse by women as opposed to men.'

A statement like this, if it can be backed up by stats, needs so much unpacking. How many were transgender women? How many were women having relationships with teenage boys? How are they evaluating and defining 'more long term harm'? Seems like an oblique reductive technique on the overwhelming harm and ubiquitous nature of sexual abuse by men, upon women/girls/boys/men.

I suspect that researcher is one of that minority of female academics (I used to be a female academic btw) who, like Camille Paglia and some of the "sex positive pro prostitution" academics, has discovered that being more of a misogynist than her male colleagues is a good way of currying favour with the powers that be. Camp kapo syndrome.

Autumn

"...Second, regarding any crime, male-to-females had a significantly increased risk for crime compared to female controls (aHR 6.6; 95% CI 4.1–10.8) but not compared to males (aHR 0.8; 95% CI 0.5–1.2). This indicates that they retained a male pattern regarding criminality. The same was true regarding violent crime"

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

So they retain normal male pattern balance.

Transsexuals who had sex reassignment surgery prior to 1989 had an increased risk of violent crime or any crime. (I don't know what the significance of 1989 is.)

I'd really like to know which studies prove more serious long term harm stems from abuse by women than by men. Just feels horribly disrespectful to all the victims of male sexual abuse. Feels horribly disrespectful to Craig Hauxwell's victims to afford him more respect [in calling him female as per his wishes] than his victims, who obviously have a different reality of his gender.

Knowing a couple of lecturers at the dept in question I'd bet the researcher mentioned would be saddened to be linked to misogyny.

It's an awful area warranting research. I think it's appallingly bad journalism which probably hasn't been thought through and the researcher may have been naive to the main slant of the final report.

I've had to name change for this post.

any insight gratefully received dottyditto on the phrase ''Studies of the experiences of sexual abuse victims have suggested that more serious long-term harm for victims results from sexual abuse by women as opposed to men.'

Both supervisors are predominantly focussed on child protection and sexual abuse. I wonder if that is where the background research lies in the statement around more harm if abuser is female?

I see. I would have just though that to make a statement like that you'd need to have fairly compelling evidence. Especially as it was preceded with the words ' Such cases may be painted as a picture of ‘illicit romance’ but the reality is often stark for the victims who suffer a range of negative consequences, no doubt exacerbated by the public perception that it can’t have been that bad if a women was responsible. ' These cases apparently, according to Darling, cause more significant long term harm than violent rape and child sex abuse by men upon girls, boys and women.