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Just when you thought Everyday Transactivism could no longer surprise * title edited by MNHQ*

743 replies

mirrorisnotmyfriend · 12/02/2017 11:20

They come up with this.

First post - Why Transwomen Aren't Biologically Male.
www.facebook.com/everydayfeminism/

The comments are encouraging though, that is, the ones that haven't been deleted. Lots of people questioning and calling this out.

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SoulSearcher101 · 27/02/2017 22:57

I do hope so Datun, I am currently trying to engage with a TRA on Twitter who posted a tweet re transpeople and suicide - I respectfully asked that if that person knew of suicidal people then to please advise them to seek psychological intervention - it has already descended into a "bathroom bill" argument from his side which totally deflects from my reasoned question which was "my main concern is why young people feel so disaffected that they feel there is only one way out - are you able to explain that to me please?"

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 28/02/2017 06:56

A few threads ago someone suggested an MN campaign against medicalising trans-presenting children. It's barbaric that the only options for Fish and her child and others like them are chemo drugs or nothing.

Datun · 28/02/2017 08:01

SoulSearcher101

Those suicide statistics need to be held up to more scrutiny. If the attempt to conversion rate, i.e. successful attempts were extrapolated from the figure of 40%, you would see one teen trans killing themselves a week in Britain.

That guy on Fox News really annoyed me with his constant repeating that American teen trans seeking bathroom access were the most vulnerable kids in the country. What, more than victims of domestic violence, child abuse, homeless kids, kids in porn? It really deflects from other issues.

SoulSearcher101 · 28/02/2017 23:25

Datun have you seen this vid?

Datun · 01/03/2017 07:52

soul

Thanks for that. Interesting, depressing and shocking all at the same time.

Especially that leaflet saying you are still a girl even if you like blow jobs. Ugh. Keep that shit away from kids.

seafoodeatit · 01/03/2017 11:41

Fucking hell that facebook page is dreadful, what the hell am I reading? I want to laugh at it all but I just find myself wanting to cry. I would post some things on that bloody page if my anxiety didn't stop me!

whoputthecatout · 01/03/2017 13:47

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4269792/ANDREW-PIERCE-powerful-transgender-lobby.html

I know it's the Daily Fail but the penny is starting to drop in the wider media.
Andrew Pierce (who is gay he says) has reached peak trans.

Ev1lEdna · 01/03/2017 14:09

@SoulSearcher101 thank you for posting that YouTube video I watched with interest and the Q&A after. I've bookmarked it to watch some others later.

I find it fascinating that the increasingly strict gender roles around children (toys, activities, clothing and colours etc.) have brought us to this point and the upward trend in figures of children and young people were a little alarming particularly with reference to teenage girls (and comorbidity of other issues involved). I can't see how other people aren't making the connection with a backlash against the gender roles and pressure therein young girls are exposed to on a daily basis.

mirrorisnotmyfriend · 01/03/2017 20:58

seafoodeatit, if you mean the EF page, there's no point posting. They delete everything that does not comply with their pro-trans agenda and will likely ban you. And you will be jumped on by frothing transactivists and their groupies before you can say 'ovaries' (which is VERY triggering, you understand).

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mirrorisnotmyfriend · 01/03/2017 21:35

I've just looked at Everyday Transactivism and there are FIVE articles on trans rights. These people represent a TINY proportion of the population - how have they managed so successfully to hijack the whole feminist movement??

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KanyesVest · 01/03/2017 21:49

I'm feeling very proud. My baby 35yo brother was over for dinner and he mentioned the ftt trans teen wrestler in the news this week. We had a hearty discussion, and ultimately he has acknowledged that he had only ever considered the vulnerable trans perspective, and women hadn't factored in his thinking at all. After our discussion, he is still sympathetic to trans people's difficulties (I didn't throw him done the EF rabbit hole), but he will try to enlighten where he can. One down, several million to go...

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 01/03/2017 22:00

Nice one Kanye!

daddyitsme · 03/03/2017 06:59

what do you think of this insightful gem?

Gallavich · 03/03/2017 08:41

I've no idea who that is but that person is clearly sexually preoccupied which is not a healthy state of mind. It seems clear to me that the vast majority of young men who are identifying as trans lesbians are porn sick, sexually preoccupied and probably dangerous.

Datun · 03/03/2017 08:44

But we will just be told that he is completely unusual and not representative.

seafoodeatit · 03/03/2017 12:55

mirror I figured as much on the jumping, on the whole they seem very aggressive and defensive if twitter is anything to go by!

Women aren't factoring in it all accept to be called all sorts of names for not saying they're 'real' women, I find it all very dehumanizing. A bit like the jenner thing with changing records to say a woman won the medals, it's like History is completely being re-written, no that person with a penis is a woman, and as such was always women, anyone who thinks otherwise is a crazy bigot.

DH is starting to wake up to this crazyness, he used to think this was just the latest social media 'cause' and I was worrying over nothing but he's in complete disbelief that children are being transed and all sorts of organisations are becoming censored.

seafoodeatit · 03/03/2017 12:56

except not accept*

cuirderussie · 03/03/2017 22:20

Actual Feminist News on FB was invaded by TRAs recently, young people, and I was shocked at their hatred and violence. Not to mention shocking ignorance and illogic. Actually makes me scared of this upcoming generation :-(

Scissorcisters · 05/03/2017 20:16

How very dare we? 4 Ways to Make Your Period-Positivity More Inclusive everydayfeminism.com/2016/01/inclusive-period-positivity/ Utter madness

theoracleofdelphi · 05/03/2017 21:59

"The problem with equating menstruation with womanhood is that it conflates biology with gender, which marginalizes trans and non-binary people."

So even saying that only women have periods isn't fucking allowed, otherwise we are transphobic?!!

LineysRun · 05/03/2017 22:16

I give you periods, and raise you fibroids, you utter mad wankers.

cuirderussie · 05/03/2017 22:48

Fucking mentallers.

cuirderussie · 05/03/2017 22:50

I should show this to my earnest transinclusive activist friends who believe in pregnant people and chestfeeding. It's the logical next step.

MercyMyJewels · 05/03/2017 22:53

Funny how Boko Haram managed to identify who to kidnap.

Funny how noone identified into that shit

venusinscorpio · 05/03/2017 22:53

Oh I don't think I can bring myself to open that EF article as it's possible I may spontaneously combust with rage.