Just when you thought Everyday Transactivism could no longer surprise * title edited by MNHQ*

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They come up with this.

First post - Why Transwomen Aren't Biologically Male.
www.facebook.com/everydayfeminism/

The comments are encouraging though, that is, the ones that haven't been deleted. Lots of people questioning and calling this out.

Well said scissors

There are some horrific comments on there

I'll be back with words when I decide how I feel about it....

Some pretty heartbreaking ones too. Can't help feeling that the resentment of, and anger towards, women is displacement for self hatred.

Wouldn't it be better to celebrate being a transwoman and live that to the full than angrily, resentfully aspiire for the unachievable? To accept being a slightly separate category but glorious in its own right? How much tension between radfems, libfems and the translobby would fall away.

I think this would set trans activists into a tail spin, the story is about how breast milk adapts to the needs of an unwell baby: www.goodtoknow.co.uk/family/548286/chelsea-pryce-viral-breast-milk-post?utm_campaign=GTKgeneric&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_term=main

transgenderreality.com/tag/jealousy/. Wow, that is scary. Scary and heartbreaking. Such anger and rage and unhappiness.

But also - so clear that they do not see women as individual people. They look at women and see something two-dimensional, having it 'easy', no problems. They do not see them as individuals with self-esteem issues, crap jobs, bad relationships - normal lives. No, they see them as some amorphous group having doors opened for them and waking up as girls with 'no effort'(!?!) and soft skin.

We are not real people at all to those who posted these comments.

Those posts all point to people who have serious mental problems.

Yes they do whoputthecatout. And they're not being given any help, just told that their feelings of rage and jealousy are absolutely normal. What a way to live .

That jealousy link is seriously alarming. And we are unreasonable foe not wanting to share changing rooms? I don't fucking think so

Absolutely not! I don't want a stranger with a penis watching me shower and change!

But "cis" women also feel jealous of other women! It's perfectly normal! That's how they justify it.

Difference is I don't know many women who's first reaction to envying another woman's figure is to be so consumed with rage that she wants hurt or rape the woman in question (what else is hating someone so much that you want to have "angry, passionate sex" with her supposed to mean?) and then spend extended amounts of time crying about it. Those are the actions of mentally unstable, dangerous people.

The worrying thing is, these sentiments aren't uncommon in the trans community. That's scary

I've just read a comment saying trans women are not socialised as males, because they identify as women so have been socialised as women and that they do not have male privilege or a male dominant attitude.

How even, what. How on earth could someone believe that.

Exactly riobruins. Now they're trying to change the meaning of 'socialised'. If society sees a boy, they treat the child as a boy, so you're socialised as a boy. Children don't have a choice in how they are socialised.

The bottom line - you’re not obligated to associate with a narcissist or sociopath just because they belong to a protected class

If you're feeling depressed by the way the trans lobby seem to be sweeping all before them, watch this video. It's a Fox News anchor (surprising, huh?) doing an amazing logical take down of a DNC trans rights advocate.

It's always the same. It's only ever men who get to be gender critical in the media. Gender critical women get death threats, get no platformed and get shouted down.

Even so, watching it cheered me up. How many Americans will have had their eyes opened?

'socialised' is something that's done to you not something you feel inside. You can't be socialised as something other people can't see or don't know.

Yeah. Me feeling like a boy wouldn't have made the teachers in school praise me more, let me talk more and take what I say more seriously. Teachers don't even know they do this, so how would a child even notice and, uh, choose to not feel "meant" by the praise? Huh?

Literally no one socialises boys who think they are girls in the same way as actual girls. The only way this could happen is if people genuinely weren't aware of the child's biological sex at all.

That video is heartening and galling at the same time because it's a Fox News Anchor say this stuff. I can't see anyone on the BBC challenging anyone in the same way.

Why? Why? Why are we being forced to align ourselves with these people? I fundamentally disagree with them on so much of their other rhetoric. I suppose they feel the same way mind, in fact I think I saw the same guy interviewing a Feminist about this subject and he was pretty incredulous that he had agreed with her.

What happened on the peak trans thread? I only went to Waitrose ...

Yes, what happened? Anyone have any idea?

No idea where it went!

Deleted. No idea why

I don't know. I can't remember what the last post I read was. It's only just gone.

Perhaps it was the people on the other thread in AIBU who say they report everything they consider "transphobic".

MNHQ cracking down because of the AIBU transphobia thread?