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New male contraceptive jab , 100% effective and lasts two years.

93 replies

Childrenofthestones · 07/02/2017 07:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4198256/New-male-contraceptive-100-success-rate.html
"New male contraceptive jab that works for TWO YEARS: One-off 'reversible vasectomy' injection had 100% success rate with no side effects"

Good news?

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OvariesForgotHerPassword · 07/02/2017 07:25

And the chances of anyone taking it up are incredibly slim. Contraception is the girl's responsibility. One injection every two years is a vile invasion of their human rights.

Etc etc meninism etc

meditrina · 07/02/2017 07:30

I remember posting about this some years ago.

It's been a long time in this stage of trials. It may well not be a method for casual use. It could - assuming reversibility is established - be a very good choice for an LTR.

There highly optimistic forecasts come from earlier work on this in India, but a number of those studies are having to be repeated to meet international standards.

ActuallyThatsSUPREMECommander · 07/02/2017 07:34

Sounds good.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38879224
There are loads of women on MN who find themselves in a heterosexual partnership stuck with no acceptable contraceptive options and condom reliability in the real world is not that great.

And I realise that this is not a feminist point per se, but the fewer children born to parents who don't want them the better.

SpongebobRoundPants · 07/02/2017 07:39

Cue an apprise of men with a fear of needles.

msrisotto · 07/02/2017 07:40

Pretty sure that's a very feminist point SUPREME Smile

MyHappyPerfume · 07/02/2017 07:41

Surprised at your condom remark, I used used condoms for 8 years without incident. I had a lot of sex too. My sister and her bf have used them as their only form of contraception for years.

ItsAFluffy · 07/02/2017 07:43

I picked the condom remark up as it's not that great in a personal choice sense and a lot of people don't.

msrisotto · 07/02/2017 07:50

So I think this is a really good development. But it has risks. If I found the pill intolerable, I know my DH would happily have this injection and i'm sure that is true of many couples in long term relationships. But, it does require a hell of a lot of trust as the consequences are in my body not his!

ActuallyThatsSUPREMECommander · 07/02/2017 07:51

A load of men do have vasectomies. A load of other men think about vasectomies but are quite reasonably scared of the finality of the choice (many many marriages do break down) or the potentially serious side effects. I honestly think this would be very popular amongst men in LTRs and if it's all it's cracked up to be it would enable many women to come off hormonal contraceptives that they really don't like but seem to be the least worst option.
I also see it being popular amongst promiscuous and wealthy men and being doled out en masse to premiership footballers at the start of each season, but whilst that's arguably a sad indictment of society it's not a bad thing in itself.

DeviTheGaelet · 07/02/2017 07:54

I would've thought meninists would love it! No way for evil women to trap them and take their money by getting pregnant Wink

MyHappyPerfume · 07/02/2017 07:54

Ahh Fluffy I can see that now you pointed it out. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

ActuallyThatsSUPREMECommander · 07/02/2017 07:57

Condoms are pretty good if you use them religiously and correctly every single time, but in the field a lot of people don't and their failure rate (or rather their users' failure rate is about 15%).
www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/unintendedpregnancy/pdf/contraceptive_methods_508.pdf
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_birth_control_methods

expatinscotland · 07/02/2017 07:59

'There are loads of women on MN who find themselves in a heterosexual partnership stuck with no acceptable contraceptive options and condom reliability in the real world is not that great.'

And TONS of women telling her to just 'get a copper coil'. It is interesting, too, how HCPs are fine with condoms being used to prevent STI, but if you say you are using them as birth control, you get endless lectures about how ineffective they are and you need LARC, no matter what the side effects to you.

MephistophelesApprentice · 07/02/2017 07:59

Looks like excellent news. I'd go for it in about heart beat, but I'll need gas and air - needles literally make me faint.

expatinscotland · 07/02/2017 08:04

Don't get me started on how the female contraceptive jab can effect women and its side effects, but that's okay, peddle it to teenage girls.

MyHappyPerfume · 07/02/2017 08:12

if you use them religiously and correctly every single time

That's the same as the contraceptive pill though. I get what you are saying. I am just touchy because of various conversations with female friends over the years who didn't like the pill but whose partners would come out with similar reasons (and others) for not using condoms. Used to drive me mad.

RacoonBandit · 07/02/2017 08:13

The pill was invented Confused and rolled out in the 60s and I can't get my head around the fact that in 50 odd years there is still no male equivalent.

Gallavich · 07/02/2017 08:17

This is fantastic. I hope it will be assertively recommended to teenage boys the way that girls are pushed towards LARC. If half the teen boy population were temporarily infertile the rates of teen pregnancy would plummet. Of course it wouldn't stop the chlamydia epidemic but they don't use condoms anyway so anything that reduces pregnancies will be a blessing.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 07/02/2017 08:43

'It is interesting, too, how HCPs are fine with condoms being used to prevent STI, but if you say you are using them as birth control, you get endless lectures about how ineffective they are and you need LARC, no matter what the side effects to you.'

Yes! Even if you have been using them without trouble for decades.
Silly little women, don't know their own minds...

Datun · 07/02/2017 08:51

I'm not sure I would trust somebody to be telling me the truth. I'd need a certificate!

meditrina · 07/02/2017 08:57

There's no male equivalent because, hostile as many women find the pill, the level of hormonal dose required to disrupt once a month ovulation is nothing compared to what is needed to halt continuous production of sperm.

A reversible blockage to the transit if sperm is much more promising than suppressing production.

The question about this that I'm not clear about is the need to establish that the man has ceased the transit if viable sperm. It can take weeks if not months to get the all-clear after vasectomy, because the ampullae are upstream of the blocked vas and any lurking there have to be flushed out before it's safe. Would this method need the same testing?

msrisotto · 07/02/2017 09:08

How do you know that the level of hormone dose to prevent ovulation is less than that would be required to stop or change sperm production? Both interventions are administered continually.

Thephoneywar · 07/02/2017 09:16

I think this is great, however as the one that gets pregnant I would have to have a lot of trust in my partner. I don't want another baby so I am going to make damn sure I can't get pregnant.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 07/02/2017 09:38

Excellent news! Does it stop them burping and farting too?

namechange20050 · 07/02/2017 09:42

This is great. My husband would definitely go for this. I was on the pill for years so he'd be more than happy to take his turn!